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The Target Committee Debates the Bomb, Explained: a lot of latitude

The men deciding how to use the bomb argue about numbers and warnings: a demonstration, a list of cities, a warning that might only help the enemy. One voice warns that announcing it and having it fail would "scupper any chance of a Japanese surrender." Kyoto is struck off for its culture—and its honeymoon memories.

What happens

At the Target Committee meeting, officers and scientists try to decide how the atomic bomb should be used. They weigh civilian deaths, the psychological impact, whether to warn Japan first, and whether to demonstrate the weapon twice. Kyoto is removed from the target list for its cultural importance, and the group debates how open to be with the Soviets.

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a lot of latitude

很大的回旋余地;行动与容错的自由空间

目标委员会开会时,格罗夫斯向在座军官解释,战争经历让美国公众对使用原子弹更为宽容。

His years of service bought him plenty of latitude with the board.

Also in this scene

  • scupper any chance of

    彻底断送……的机会

  • under any circumstances

    在任何情况下(都不)

  • go off

    (炸弹)爆炸;(警报、闹钟)响起

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28 notes across 62 lines

Phrase · C1buy someone a lot of latitude with someonebought us a lot of latitude with the American public.
Phrase · B2as much X as YUh, the A-bomb might not cause as much damage as the Tokyo bombings.
Phrase · B2underestimate the impact of somethingdon't underestimate the psychological impact of a...
Sounddon't underestimate

liaison

don't underestimate the psychological impact of a...
Phrase · B1in all directionsDeadly neutron effects for a mile, in all directions,
Phrase · B2from a single devicefrom one single device.
Phrase · C1a revelation of somethingthe atomic bomb will be a terrible revelation of divine power.
Grammar · B2If that's true, it would be definitive

conditional

If that's true, it would be definitive.
Phrase · B2issue a warning to someoneAnd we could issue a warning to reduce civilian casualties.
Phrase · C1send everything someone has against someoneThey'd send everything they have up against us, and I'd be up in that plane.
Phrase · C1scupper any chance of somethingwe'd scupper any chance of a Japanese surrender.
Slang · C1scupperwe'd scupper any chance of a Japanese surrender.
Phrase · C1in the most unambiguous termsWe intend to demonstrate it in the most unambiguous terms.
Soundthe most unambiguous

stress

We intend to demonstrate it in the most unambiguous terms.
Grammar · B2we can keep doing this until they surrender

until-clause

Once to show the weapon's power and a second to show that we can keep doing this until they surrender.
Phrase · B2take something off the listI've taken Kyoto off the list due to its cultural significance to the Japanese people.
Phrase · B1make something simpleLet me make this simple for you, gentlemen.
Phrase · B2under any circumstancesunder any circumstances short of a successful and total invasion of the home islands.
Phrase · C1retain an advantageIf we retain moral advantage.
Phrase · B2be misinformedYou've been misinformed.
Phrase · B1be a matter of timeA Russian bomb is a matter of time.
Soundmatter of time

flap

A Russian bomb is a matter of time.
Phrase · B2be in agreementNot all scientists on the project are in agreement.
Phrase · C1of doubtful somethingby certain scientists of doubtful discretion and uncertain loyalty.
Phrase · B2as soon as it's practicalNow, we need these men, but as soon as it's practical, we should sever any such scientists from the program.
Phrase · C1sever someone from somethingNow, we need these men, but as soon as it's practical, we should sever any such scientists from the program.
Grammar · B2as soon as it's practical

time clause

Now, we need these men, but as soon as it's practical, we should sever any such scientists from the program.
Phrase · C1make a promiseneed not make unkeepable promises.

The Target Committee Debates the Bomb, explained

What's really going on

The scene is a committee meeting, but it plays like the last quiet moment before a verdict. The language is bureaucratic—estimates, warnings, latitude—and that is the point: the decision to bomb is spoken about in the vocabulary of damage reports. Two arguments collide here. One is practical and forward-looking, worrying that a warning could "scupper any chance of a Japanese surrender"; the other is moral, and it survives only as a small protest, the fear of an America where this is done and no one objects. The Kyoto detail completes the picture: even a target list can carry sentiment, and a honeymoon memory can decide the fate of a city. The machine keeps moving.

Theme

PowerThe meeting shows how a handful of officials decide the use of an unprecedented weapon.
DutyEveryone at the table weighs lives against orders, warnings against military advantage.

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  • don't underestimate — liaison
  • the most unambiguous — stress
  • matter of time — flap
A Russian bomb is a matter of time.

The warning that secrecy cannot prevent others from building the bomb; only time separates them.

Secrecy won't stop the Soviets from becoming part of the atomic world.

An argument that hiding the technology cannot keep other powers out of the nuclear age.

Now, we need these men, but as soon as it's practical, we should sever any such scientists from the program.

A push to remove scientists whose loyalty is questioned once they are no longer needed.

I worry about an America where we do these things and no one protests.

A moral objection: the real danger is a public that stops objecting.

Questions about this scene

What is the committee deciding?

How to use the atomic bomb: whether to warn Japan, whether to demonstrate it, which cities to target, and how much openness to offer the Soviets.

Why is Kyoto removed from the target list?

Because of its cultural significance to the Japanese people, and because a member of the group honeymooned there and calls it a magnificent city.

What is the plan for demonstrating the bomb?

To show it in the most unambiguous terms, twice: once to prove its power and a second time to show they can keep bombing until Japan surrenders.

What does "scupper any chance of a Japanese surrender" mean?

It means announcing the bomb and then having it fail to explode would destroy any possibility that Japan gives up, so the element of surprise matters.

What worry does someone raise about the American public?

One voice worries about an America where these things are done and no one protests, questioning what the country becomes if it stays silent.

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