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Target Committee Meeting 选轰炸目标IMDb ↗
轰炸城市能少死人
Oppenheimer · 2023
CEFR C1IELTS 7.5Meeting room雅思Duty
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Everything you need before watchingThe target committee sits over a list of Japanese cities. Tokyo's firestorm already killed a hundred thousand people, mostly civilians. Someone wonders whether an atomic bomb would even do more damage. The military says no target is big enough except a city, and a warning would put every gun on the plane. Stimson takes Kyoto off the list, citing culture and a honeymoon. Groves cuts through: Japan will not surrender short of invasion, so bombing cities will save lives. Oppenheimer talks moral advantage, the Soviets, and a test before Potsdam.
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J. Robert Oppenheimerproject scientific director
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Leslie Grovesmilitary director
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Henry StimsonSecretary of War
Chapters
28 parts · AI-cut01Bohr Sends Him Away玻尔劝他离开实验室，去能想问题的地方C11'56"02Strauss Recruits Him有人拿房子通勤当挖角筹码B23'02"03Rabi On The Train火车上有人挖苦：美国人凭什么来讲新物理B21'39"04First Quantum Seminar第一堂课就把光既是粒子又是波讲成入门C12'08"05Party Politics Debate入党是关心这个世界B22'38"06Naming Los Alamos一生理想落在荒原尽头B21'45"07Kitty And Empty Space有人用酒杯解释世界是空的B22'53"08Lawrence Shuts The Union劳伦斯说你重要，所以电话早就被监听了C11'47"09Groves Offers The Job将军当众念完缺点清单，接着把计划交给他C13'42"10Einstein On Atmosphere点燃大气的概率近乎零，却拿整个世界当赌注C11'53"11Chevalier Approaches厨房里有人转述：资料可以走后门给苏联C11'32"12Teller Pitches Fusion特勒打断裂变课，说下一堂该讲百万吨级氢弹C11'55"13Condon Walks Out芝加哥堆刚临界，康登当场辞职说受不了规矩B22'21"14Last Night With Jean过夜之后他告诉琼，从此不能再见面B23'21"15Cock-And-Bull Story安全官追问时，他编假故事把朋友护下来C14'03"16Bohr On The Aftermath玻尔说即将揭开的力量会活过纳粹，那是新世界C12'35"17GAC Rejects The Super更大的炸弹只瞄准最大的城市，会上有人叫它屠杀C11'52"18Target Committee Meeting轰炸城市能少死人C13'33"19Trinity Weather Hold点火时刻押在黎明雨停C13'01"20Truman Oval Office他在白宫说手上有血，总统骂广岛不是他的戏B23'26"21Fuchs And The World生日会上听说富克斯一直在为苏联做间谍C11'31"22Moment Of The Explosion侥幸活着仍会死C11'54"23Power In The Shadows斯特劳斯把材料交给博登，权力留在阴影里C12'38"24Rabi Asks For Mermaids拉比反问：原子弹氢弹都有了，还要美人鱼吗C12'19"25Borden Reads The Letter博登当庭宣读：奥本海默更可能是苏联代理人C12'14"26Hill Names The Motive整人不过公报私仇C12'34"27Kitty On The Stand基蒂当场顶回去：我不喜欢你这种问法C12'36"28Did You Support The Bomb律师当庭问他后不后悔投弹，他只说做了本职C13'00"
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00:00
The firestorm in Tokyo killed 100,000 people.
东京的火风暴烧死了十万人。
00:02
Mostly civilians.
大多是平民。
00:04
I worry about an America where we do these things
我担心那样一个美国：我们做这些事
00:06
and no one protests.
却没有人抗议。
00:08
Pearl Harbor and three years of brutal conflict in the Pacific
珍珠港，再加上太平洋三年残酷战争
00:11
bought us a lot of latitude with the American public.
给了我们在美国公众面前很大的回旋余地。
00:13
Enough to unleash the atomic bomb?
大到足以释放原子弹？
00:16
Uh, the A-bomb might not cause
呃，原子弹造成的破坏未必
00:17
as much damage as the Tokyo bombings.
有东京大轰炸那么大。
00:19
What are we estimating?
我们估计是多少？
00:21
In a medium-size city, uh,
在一座中等城市，呃，
00:23
20 or 30,000 dead.
死两到三万人。
00:25
Yes, but, uh,
是的，不过，呃，
00:27
don't underestimate the psychological impact of a...
别低估一次……的心理冲击
00:30
of an atomic explosion .
一次原子爆炸的心理冲击。
00:31
A pillar of fire 10,000 feet tall.
一根一万英尺高的火柱。
00:36
Deadly neutron effects for a mile, in all directions ,
致命的中子效应一英里，四面八方，
00:39
from one single device.
来自单单一个装置。
00:42
Dropped from a barely noticed B-29,
从一架几乎没人注意的B-29上投下，
00:44
the atomic bomb will be
原子弹将会是
00:47
a terrible revelation of divine power.
神力的一次可怕显现。
00:50
If that's true, it would be definitive.
若当真如此，那就具有决定性。
00:53
World War II would be over.
第二次世界大战就会结束。
00:55
Our boys would come home.
咱们的子弟就能回家。
00:57
Military targets?
军事目标？
00:59
Uh, there aren't any big enough.
呃，没有够大的。
01:02
Perhaps a vital war plant with workers housed nearby.
或许一座关键军工厂，工人就住在附近。
01:07
And we could issue a warning to reduce civilian casualties.
我们还可以发出警告，减少平民伤亡。
01:10
They'd send everything they have up against us,
他们会把所有火力都调来打我们，
01:12
and I'd be up in that plane.
而我会在那架飞机上。
01:14
But if we announce it and it fails to go off,
可要是我们事先宣布，它却没炸响，
01:17
we'd scupper any chance of a Japanese surrender.
日本投降的任何机会就全毁了。
01:20
Is there no way to demonstrate a bomb to Japan
难道没办法向日本演示一枚炸弹
01:23
to provoke surrender?
来促使他们投降？
01:24
We intend to demonstrate it in the most unambiguous terms .
我们打算用最不含糊的方式来展示它。
01:27
Twice.
两次。
01:28
Once to show the weapon's power
一次展示武器的威力
01:30
and a second to show that we can keep doing this
第二次表明我们还能接着这么干
01:33
until they surrender.
直到他们投降。
01:34
We have a list of 12 cities to choose from...
我们有一份十二座城市的名单可以选……
01:38
Sorry, 11.
抱歉，十一座。
01:40
I've taken Kyoto off the list
我已经把京都从名单上拿掉了
01:42
due to its cultural significance to the Japanese people.
因为它对日本人民有文化上的重要性。
01:45
Also, my wife and I honeymooned there.
而且，我和妻子在那儿度过蜜月。
01:48
It's a magnificent city.
那是一座壮丽的城市。
01:53
Let me make this simple for you, gentlemen.
各位，我把话说明白。
01:55
According to my intelligence, which I cannot share with you ,
根据我不能与各位分享的情报，
01:57
the Japanese people will not surrender
日本人民不会投降
02:00
under any circumstances
在任何情况下都不会
02:02
short of a successful and total invasion of the home islands.
除非对本土进行成功而彻底的占领。
02:05
Many lives will be lost, American and Japanese.
会有很多人死去，美国人和日本人。
02:08
The use of the atomic bomb on Japanese cities
对日本城市使用原子弹
02:10
will save lives.
会少死人。
02:12
If we retain moral advantage.
如果我们还能保住道德优势。
02:15
-How so? -Well, if we use this weapon
- 怎么说？ - 如果我们使用这件武器
02:17
without informing our allies , they'll see it as a threat.
却不告知盟友，他们会把它看成威胁。
02:20
And we'll be in an arms race.
我们就会陷入军备竞赛。
02:21
How open can we be with the Soviets?
对苏联人我们能开放到什么程度？
02:23
Secrecy won't stop the Soviets
保密挡不住苏联人
02:25
from becoming part of the atomic world.
成为原子世界的一部分。
02:27
We've been told they have no uranium.
有人告诉我们他们没有铀。
02:30
You've been misinformed.
你们被误导了。
02:31
A Russian bomb is a matter of time .
俄国人有原子弹只是时间问题。
02:33
The program needs to continue at full pace after the war.
战争结束后，这个项目仍需全速推进。
02:36
Uh, Secretary Stimson, if I may ...
呃，史汀生部长，请允许我……
02:39
Not all scientists on the project are in agreement.
项目上的科学家并非全都意见一致。
02:43
In fact, this might be a moment to consider other opinions.
其实，这或许是考虑其他意见的时候。
02:46
-If you talk a scientist in... -The Manhattan Project
- 要是你把一个科学家说动…… - 曼哈顿计划
02:48
has been plagued from the start
从一开始就深受困扰
02:49
by certain scientists of doubtful discretion
某些口风可疑的科学家
02:53
and uncertain loyalty.
以及忠诚不定的人。
02:54
One of them just tried to meet with the president.
其中一人刚刚试图面见总统。
02:56
Now, we need these men,
眼下，我们还需要这些人，
02:58
but as soon as it's practical,
但一旦可行，
03:00
we should sever any such scientists from the program.
就该把这类科学家从项目里清除出去。
03:02
Wouldn't you agree, Doctor?
你同意吧，博士？
03:05
If a Russian bomb is inevitable,
如果俄国原子弹不可避免，
03:06
perhaps we should invite their top scientists to Trinity.
或许该请他们的顶尖科学家来看三位一体试爆。
03:10
President Truman has no intention
杜鲁门总统无意
03:12
of raising expectations
抬高期望
03:14
that Stalin be included in the atomic project.
让斯大林被纳入原子计划。
03:17
Informing him of our breakthrough
把我们的突破告知他
03:18
and presenting it as a means to win the war
并把它说成赢得战争的手段
03:20
need not make unkeepable promises .
不必许下无法兑现的承诺。
03:23
But the Potsdam peace conference in July
可七月的波茨坦和会
03:24
will be President Truman's last chance
将是杜鲁门总统最后的机会
03:26
to have that conversation.
进行那场谈话。
03:28
Can you give us a working bomb by then?
到那时你能给我们一枚能用的炸弹吗？
03:31
Absolutely. We will test fire before the conference.
当然。我们会在会议前试爆。
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Click a card to jump to its moment in the videoCollocationA2↩ 00:04
worry about something
worry about something
担心某事
I worry about an America where we do these things
我担心那样一个美国：我们做这些事
GrammarB1↩ 00:04
where we do these things
定语从句：where 修饰 America，把国家说成一种会做这些事的地方。
I worry about an America where we do these things
我担心那样一个美国：我们做这些事
CollocationC1↩ 00:11
a lot of latitude
a lot of latitude
很大的回旋余地
这里 latitude=公众能容忍的空间，不是纬度
bought us a lot of latitude with the American public.
给了我们在美国公众面前很大的回旋余地。
Pronunciation↩ 00:11
a lot of latitude
of 弱成 /əv/，latitude 重音在 lat。
bought us a lot of latitude with the American public.
给了我们在美国公众面前很大的回旋余地。
SlangB1↩ 00:16
A-bomb
原子弹（口语简称）——会议里的缩略叫法，书面写 atomic bomb
Uh, the A-bomb might not cause
呃，原子弹造成的破坏未必
CollocationB1↩ 00:17
as much something as
as much something as
跟…造成的损害一样多
as much damage as the Tokyo bombings.
有东京大轰炸那么大。
Pronunciation↩ 00:30
atomic explosion
重音在 tom 和 plo，两下砸实。
of an atomic explosion .
一次原子爆炸的心理冲击。
CollocationA2↩ 00:36
in all directions
in all directions
四面八方、各个方向
Deadly neutron effects for a mile, in all directions ,
致命的中子效应一英里，四面八方，
SlangB1↩ 00:55
Our boys
咱们的子弟兵——军方/政客对士兵的亲热叫法，正式文件少用
Our boys would come home.
咱们的子弟就能回家。
CollocationB1↩ 01:07
issue a warning
issue a warning
发出警告
And we could issue a warning to reduce civilian casualties.
我们还可以发出警告，减少平民伤亡。
CollocationB1↩ 01:17
any chance of something
any chance of something
任何…的机会
we'd scupper any chance of a Japanese surrender.
日本投降的任何机会就全毁了。
SlangC1↩ 01:17
scupper
毁掉、搞砸——英式口语，把计划凿沉；正式可用 ruin
we'd scupper any chance of a Japanese surrender.
日本投降的任何机会就全毁了。
CollocationC1↩ 01:24
in the most + adjective + terms
in the most + adjective + terms
用最不含糊的方式
We intend to demonstrate it in the most unambiguous terms .
我们打算用最不含糊的方式来展示它。
Pronunciation↩ 01:24
most unambiguous terms
unambiguous 重音在 big，terms 顿住。
We intend to demonstrate it in the most unambiguous terms .
我们打算用最不含糊的方式来展示它。
CollocationA2↩ 01:40
take something off the list
take something off the list
从名单上拿掉
I've taken Kyoto off the list
我已经把京都从名单上拿掉了
CollocationA2↩ 01:42
due to something
due to something
因为、由于
due to its cultural significance to the Japanese people.
因为它对日本人民有文化上的重要性。
GrammarB2↩ 01:55
which I cannot share with you
非限制定语：which 补充情报不能公开，用权威把讨论资格收走。
According to my intelligence, which I cannot share with you ,
根据我不能与各位分享的情报，
CollocationB2↩ 02:00
under any circumstances
under any circumstances
在任何情况下都不
under any circumstances
在任何情况下都不会
CollocationB2↩ 02:02
short of something
short of something
除非到了…的地步
这里不是缺货，是除了彻底占领本土以外
short of a successful and total invasion of the home islands.
除非对本土进行成功而彻底的占领。
GrammarB2↩ 02:02
short of a successful and total invasion of the home islands
介词短语：short of + 名词短语，整个作条件：除非本土被彻底占领。
short of a successful and total invasion of the home islands.
除非对本土进行成功而彻底的占领。
GrammarB1↩ 02:17
without informing our allies
without+动名词：without doing=没做某事的情况下，这里是不告知盟友。
without informing our allies , they'll see it as a threat.
却不告知盟友，他们会把它看成威胁。
CollocationB1↩ 02:31
a matter of time
a matter of time
只是时间问题
A Russian bomb is a matter of time .
俄国人有原子弹只是时间问题。
CollocationB1↩ 02:33
at full pace
at full pace
全速、全力推进
The program needs to continue at full pace after the war.
战争结束后，这个项目仍需全速推进。
CollocationB1↩ 02:36
if I may
if I may
请允许我说一句
Uh, Secretary Stimson, if I may ...
呃，史汀生部长，请允许我……
Pronunciation↩ 02:36
if I may
if 弱成 /əf/，may 轻轻扬起。
Uh, Secretary Stimson, if I may ...
呃，史汀生部长，请允许我……
CollocationA2↩ 02:48
from the start
from the start
从一开始
has been plagued from the start
从一开始就深受困扰
CollocationA2↩ 02:58
as soon as
as soon as
一…就、一旦可行就
but as soon as it's practical,
但一旦可行，
Pronunciation↩ 02:58
as soon as it's
as soon as it's 连成 ə-soon-əz-its。
but as soon as it's practical,
但一旦可行，
GrammarB2↩ 03:20
need not make unkeepable promises
need not：need not do=不必做；比 don't have to 更书面。
need not make unkeepable promises .
不必许下无法兑现的承诺。
Pronunciation↩ 03:31
test fire before
test fire 两个词都咬死，表示试爆。
Absolutely. We will test fire before the conference.
当然。我们会在会议前试爆。
Teaching points
Review right after watchingMy level
above my level
CollocationC1↩ 00:11
a lot of latitude
很大的回旋余地
In the scene有人说珍珠港和三年苦战给了政府很大公众容忍度。
The scandal bought the agency a lot of latitude with voters who wanted revenge.那桩丑闻让该机构在渴望报复的选民那里有了很大回旋余地。
In daily life
项目延期The outage bought us a lot of latitude with the client on the new deadline.那次故障让客户对新年限给了我们很大余地。
above my level
VocabularyC1↩ 01:17
scupper
毁掉、搞砸机会
In the scene军方说若事先宣布却没炸响，日本投降的机会就完了。
One leaked memo could scupper the whole merger.一份泄出的备忘录就能毁掉整桩并购。
In daily life
谈融资A missed payroll would scupper any chance of a second round.发不出工资会毁掉下一轮融资的任何机会。
above my level
Phrasal verbB2↩ 01:14
go off
爆炸、响起
In the scene有人担心事先宣布、炸弹却没炸，示威会变成笑话。
The alarm failed to go off, so the whole floor overslept.闹钟没响，整层楼都睡过头了。
In daily life
实验室If the charge fails to go off, nobody approaches the site.如果炸药没引爆，谁也别靠近现场。
above my level
IronyC1↩ 02:10
will save lives
会少死人、会救命
In the scene格罗夫斯刚说要炸日本城市，紧接着把这说成拯救美日双方生命。
They called the layoffs a way to save jobs. Nobody in the room smiled.他们把裁员说成保岗位。屋里没人笑。
In daily life
开会辩解Cutting the night shift will save lives, he said, meaning it would save money.他说砍夜班能救命，意思其实是省钱。
above my level
IdiomB2↩ 02:02
short of
除非到了…地步
In the scene格罗夫斯说日本人除了本土被彻底占领，否则绝不投降。
Short of firing the whole team, there is no quick fix.除非把整队裁掉，否则没有快办法。
In daily life
谈合同They will not sign short of a full indemnity clause.除非有完整免责条款，否则他们不签。
auto-pauses
IdiomB1↩ 02:31
a matter of time
只是时间问题
In the scene奥本海默当场拆穿：苏联没铀是误报，他们有弹只是迟早。
If they keep shipping late, a lawsuit is a matter of time.如果他们一直晚交货，被告只是时间问题。
In daily life
看球赛At this pace, a goal is a matter of time.这节奏下，进球只是时间问题。
above my level
DiscourseB2↩ 01:53
make this simple
我把话说明白
In the scene格罗夫斯打断讨论，用情报权威把京都、警告、示众全压下去。
Let me make this simple for you: the budget is closed.我把话说明白：预算已经关了。
In daily life
结束争论Let me make this simple for you. We ship Friday or we lose the slot.我把话说明白。周五发出去，否则档期没了。
above my level
CollocationC1↩ 01:24
in unambiguous terms
用毫不含糊的话说
In the scene有人问能否对日本示威促降，对方说要用最不含糊的方式演示，还要两次。
The regulator replied in the most unambiguous terms: stop selling it.监管用最不含糊的方式回复：停售。
In daily life
拒加条款Say it in unambiguous terms so legal cannot pretend they missed it.用不含糊的话说，免得法务装没看见。
Golden lines
A great line in its own right — why and how to use it“I worry about an America where we do these things”
我担心那样一个美国：我们做这些事
Why it's great
把国家当成会变质的对象，后半句才落到没人抗议。
Pattern
I worry about a + 地方 + where...
When to use
批评一种制度或风气正在变坏时。
Similar
I worry about a country that looks away. ／ I worry about a workplace where nobody speaks up.
Register
literary
Shadowing tip
worry 落下，where 略停，再接 do these things。
Use it yourself
批评沉默I worry about a team where we hide the numbers and no one asks.我担心那样一个团队：我们瞒数据，却没人问。
“We intend to demonstrate it in the most unambiguous terms.”
我们打算用最不含糊的方式来展示它。
Why it's great
公文腔把两次屠城说成演示，冷静得可怕。
Pattern
demonstrate something in the most + adj. + terms
When to use
要把态度或后果说死、不留误解时。
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We'll make it perfectly clear. ／ We'll show them in no uncertain terms.
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formal
Shadowing tip
intend 稳，unambiguous 拉长咬清，terms 顿住。
Use it yourself
立下规矩We intend to enforce this in the most unambiguous terms.我们打算用最不含糊的方式执行这条。
“A Russian bomb is a matter of time.”
俄国人有原子弹只是时间问题。
Why it's great
一句把秘密竞赛从如果变成何时。
Pattern
X is a matter of time.
When to use
某件不想发生的事已不可避免时。
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It's only a matter of time. ／ It's just a question of when.
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neutral
Shadowing tip
Russian bomb 平均用力，matter of time 下沉。
Use it yourself
谈竞品A copycat product is a matter of time.山寨产品出现只是时间问题。
Monologue
One character carrying the scene — shadow the whole passage❝ 格罗夫斯把轰炸说成救命
Let me make this simple for you, gentlemen. According to my intelligence, which I cannot share with you, the Japanese people will not surrender under any circumstances short of a successful and total invasion of the home islands. Many lives will be lost, American and Japanese. The use of the atomic bomb on Japanese cities will save lives.
各位，我把话说明白。 根据我不能与各位分享的情报， 日本人民不会投降 在任何情况下都不会 除非对本土进行成功而彻底的占领。 会有很多人死去，美国人和日本人。 对日本城市使用原子弹 会少死人。
从情报到登陆伤亡，最后用救命收束屠城逻辑。