Oppenheimer · 2023 — Chapter 27 of 28 · 2'39" · C1

Kitty Testifies Before the Board, Explained: Haven't the slightest idea

Kitty takes the stand and refuses to be cornered. Asked about an old Party card, she answers "Haven't the slightest idea," then corrects her questioner's wording and insists Robert "never had anything to do with the Communist Party as such." Robb answers with a sneer.

What happens

Kitty is called to testify about her husband's politics. Robb presses her on an old Communist Party card, and she deflects each question, even correcting his phrasing. She says Robert never truly belonged to the Party, that he gave money for Spanish refugees from time to time, and refuses to be drawn further.

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Phrase of the scene

Haven't the slightest idea

一点概念都没有;完全不知道

律师反复追问党证的下落,基蒂用这句话表示自己毫无印象。

Haven't the slightest idea where it went.

Also in this scene

  • as such

    本身、严格意义上、就其本身而言

  • having anything to do with

    和……有任何关系

  • from time to time

    时不时地;偶尔,隔一阵就有一次

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28 notes across 50 lines

Phrase · B1membership cardDid you have a Communist Party membership card?
Phrase · B2the act of doing somethingI mean, presumably, the act of joining the Party required sending some money and receiving a card, no?
Grammar · C1the act of joining the Party required sending some money

gerund

I mean, presumably, the act of joining the Party required sending some money and receiving a card, no?
Phrase · B1a long time agoIt's just it was all so very long ago,
Soundso very long ago

stress

It's just it was all so very long ago,
Phrase · B2long enough to do somethingLong enough to have forgotten.
Phrase · B1rip something upDid you return the card or rip it up?
Grammar · C1The card whose existence I've forgotten

relative clause

The card whose existence I've forgotten?
Phrase · B2not have the slightest ideaHaven't the slightest idea.
Phrase · B2make a distinction betweenCan a distinction be made between Soviet Communism and Communism?
Phrase · B2in the days when ...Well, in the days when I was a member, I thought they were definitely two things.
Soundin the days when

liaison

Well, in the days when I was a member, I thought they were definitely two things.
Phrase · B1no longer do somethingI now no longer believe this.
Phrase · B2linked togetherBelieve the whole thing's linked together and spread all over the world,
Phrase · B1my mistakeMy mistake.
Phrase · B2be familiar with somethingAre you familiar with the fact your husband was making contributions
Phrase · B2from time to timeI knew that Robert gave money from time to time.
Soundfrom time to time

flap

I knew that Robert gave money from time to time.
Phrase · C1go into channelsDid you know this money was going into Communist Party channels?
Grammar · C1your husband had not stopped having anything to do with the Communist Party

past perfect

your husband had not stopped having anything to do with the Communist Party?
Phrase · B2any way you wishYou can answer that any way you wish.
Phrase · B1why don't you do somethingThen why don't you answer it that way?
Phrase · B2have nothing to do with someoneBecause Robert never had anything to do with the Communist Party as such.
Phrase · C1as suchBecause Robert never had anything to do with the Communist Party as such.
Phrase · C1take an interest in somethingI know he took an intellectual interest in Communist ideas...
Phrase · B2plain old regular somethingIntellectual Communists and your plain old regular Commie?
Slang · B2CommieIntellectual Communists and your plain old regular Commie?
Phrase · B2couldn't answer that oneWell, I couldn't answer that one.

Kitty Testifies Before the Board, explained

What's really going on

The scene is a duel in which the witness has better control than the prosecutor. Robb tries to pin Kitty down with a yes-or-no question, but she answers only what she chooses and corrects his words instead of defending herself. Her sharpest move is to refuse the phrase he feeds her, then replace it with one that is more exact: Robert gave money to Spanish refugees, and he was interested in Communist ideas, but he "never had anything to do with the Communist Party as such." That word, as such, is the whole defense. Robb tries to mock it with a jab about intellectual Communists versus a regular Commie, and gets nothing back. The scene shows loyalty that is not sentimental — clear, precise, and impossible to turn into a confession.

Theme

TrustKitty defends her husband with exact language, refusing to let a loaded phrase become a confession.
JusticeThe hearing's yes-or-no framing is turned back on the prosecutor by a witness who knows the words matter.

Listen for

  • so very long ago — stress
  • in the days when — liaison
  • from time to time — flap
Because Robert never had anything to do with the Communist Party as such.

Her precise defense: he may have been sympathetic, but he was never truly a member in the strict sense.

You can answer that any way you wish.

A reminder that she is not trapped by the question's form, which she then uses against the prosecutor.

Well, in the days when I was a member, I thought they were definitely two things.

Her careful admission about her own past belief, delivered as fact rather than confession.

Intellectual Communists and your plain old regular Commie?

Robb's mocking question, meant to ridicule her distinction between ideas and membership.

Questions about this scene

Why does Kitty correct Robb's wording?

Because his phrase, having anything to do with the Communist Party, is vague enough to mean almost anything. She refuses it and gives a more exact version of the facts.

What does she admit about Robert?

She says he gave money to Spanish refugees and took an intellectual interest in Communist ideas, but insists he never truly belonged to the Party as such.

How does Robb try to provoke her?

He mocks her distinction by asking whether there are two kinds of Communists, intellectual ones and a regular Commie. Kitty says she cannot answer that.

Why is 'Haven't the slightest idea' important here?

It lets Kitty deny knowledge of the Party card without agreeing to the prosecutor's framing, keeping control of the exchange.

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