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律师当庭问他后不后悔投弹，他只说做了本职
Oppenheimer · 2023
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Everything you need before watchingIn the security hearing, counsel pins Oppenheimer to the target list, the civilian dead, and the hydrogen bomb. He admits the strike was technically successful and that he did his job, then is forced toward a darker rule: once you have a weapon, you tend to use it. Strauss, in voice-over, calls the guilt a crown the self-important like to wear. Watch how we gets stripped down to you, and how regret is recast as duty.
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Robbhearing counsel
奥
Oppenheimerwitness
斯
Straussrival narrator
Chapters
28 parts · AI-cut01Bohr Sends Him Away玻尔劝他离开实验室，去能想问题的地方C11'56"02Strauss Recruits Him有人拿房子通勤当挖角筹码B23'02"03Rabi On The Train火车上有人挖苦：美国人凭什么来讲新物理B21'39"04First Quantum Seminar第一堂课就把光既是粒子又是波讲成入门C12'08"05Party Politics Debate入党是关心这个世界B22'38"06Naming Los Alamos一生理想落在荒原尽头B21'45"07Kitty And Empty Space有人用酒杯解释世界是空的B22'53"08Lawrence Shuts The Union劳伦斯说你重要，所以电话早就被监听了C11'47"09Groves Offers The Job将军当众念完缺点清单，接着把计划交给他C13'42"10Einstein On Atmosphere点燃大气的概率近乎零，却拿整个世界当赌注C11'53"11Chevalier Approaches厨房里有人转述：资料可以走后门给苏联C11'32"12Teller Pitches Fusion特勒打断裂变课，说下一堂该讲百万吨级氢弹C11'55"13Condon Walks Out芝加哥堆刚临界，康登当场辞职说受不了规矩B22'21"14Last Night With Jean过夜之后他告诉琼，从此不能再见面B23'21"15Cock-And-Bull Story安全官追问时，他编假故事把朋友护下来C14'03"16Bohr On The Aftermath玻尔说即将揭开的力量会活过纳粹，那是新世界C12'35"17GAC Rejects The Super更大的炸弹只瞄准最大的城市，会上有人叫它屠杀C11'52"18Target Committee Meeting轰炸城市能少死人C13'33"19Trinity Weather Hold点火时刻押在黎明雨停C13'01"20Truman Oval Office他在白宫说手上有血，总统骂广岛不是他的戏B23'26"21Fuchs And The World生日会上听说富克斯一直在为苏联做间谍C11'31"22Moment Of The Explosion侥幸活着仍会死C11'54"23Power In The Shadows斯特劳斯把材料交给博登，权力留在阴影里C12'38"24Rabi Asks For Mermaids拉比反问：原子弹氢弹都有了，还要美人鱼吗C12'19"25Borden Reads The Letter博登当庭宣读：奥本海默更可能是苏联代理人C12'14"26Hill Names The Motive整人不过公报私仇C12'34"27Kitty On The Stand基蒂当场顶回去：我不喜欢你这种问法C12'36"28Did You Support The Bomb律师当庭问他后不后悔投弹，他只说做了本职C13'00"
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Well, we've...
嗯，我们……
00:02
we've freely used the atomic bomb...
我们已经毫无顾忌地用过原子弹……
00:04
In fact, Doctor, you assisted in selecting
事实上，博士，您参与挑选了
00:06
the target to drop the atomic bomb on Japan,
向日本投原子弹的目标，
00:07
- didn't you ? -Yes.
-对吧？ -是的。
00:09
Well, then you knew, did you not, that by dropping
那您当时就知道，不是吗，投下
00:11
that atomic bomb on the target you selected,
那枚原子弹到您选的目标上，
00:13
that thousands of civilians would be killed
会有成千上万的平民被炸死
00:14
or injured, is that correct?
或受伤，对吗？
00:16
Yes, not as many as turned out...
是的，没料到后来会那么多……
00:18
Oh. Well, how many were killed or injured?
哦。那死伤了多少人？
00:22
at both Hiroshima and...
广岛和……两地
00:23
110,000 at both.
两地一共十一万。
00:25
On the day of each bombing?
每次轰炸当天？
00:28
Yes.
是的。
00:29
And in the weeks and years that followed?
那之后几周、几年呢？
00:31
It has been put at somewhere between 50 and 100,000.
有人估计大约在五万到十万之间。
00:34
-220,000 dead at least? -Yes.
-至少二十二万死者？ -是的。
00:36
Any moral scruples about that?
对此有任何道德顾忌吗？
00:39
Terrible ones.
非常大的顾忌。
00:40
But yet you testified in here
可您却在这里作证说
00:41
that the bombing of Hiroshima was very successful.
广岛轰炸非常成功。
00:44
-Technically successful. -Oh!
-技术上成功。 -哦！
00:46
Technically, it was very successful.
从技术上说，非常成功。
00:47
And it is also alleged to have helped end the war.
而且据称它也帮助结束了战争。
00:49
Would you have been in support of the dropping
您会支持投下
00:51
of a hydrogen bomb on Hiroshima?
一枚氢弹到广岛吗？
00:53
That would make no sense at all .
那完全说不通。
00:55
-Why? -The-the target is too small.
-为什么？ -那、那个目标太小了。
00:57
Well, supposing there had been a target in Japan
那假如日本有个目标
01:00
big enough for a thermonuclear weapon,
大到配得上热核武器，
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would you have been opposed to the dropping of it?
您会反对投下它吗？
01:03
This was not a problem with which I was confronted ...
当时我并没有面对过这个问题……
01:05
Well, I'm confronting you with it now, sir.
那我现在就拿这个问题当面问您，先生。
01:06
It was all part of his plan.
这全是他计划的一部分。
01:08
He wanted the glorious,
他要那份光辉的、
01:10
insincere guilt of the self-important
自命不凡者虚伪的愧疚
01:12
to wear like a fuckin' crown.
好戴成一顶他妈的王冠。
01:13
Say, "No, we cannot go down this road,"
嘴上说：「不，我们不能走这条路，」
01:17
even as he knew we'd have to.
哪怕他心里清楚我们不得不走。
01:20
Would you have been opposed to the dropping
您会反对投下
01:21
of a thermonuclear weapon on Japan
热核武器到日本
01:23
-because of moral scruples ? -Yes, I believe I would, sir.
-是出于道德顾忌吗？ -是的，我想我会反对，先生。
01:25
Well, did you oppose the dropping
那您当时反对投下
01:27
of an atomic bomb on Hiroshima because of moral scruples ?
原子弹到广岛，是出于道德顾忌吗？
01:29
We set forth our arguments...
我们陈述了我们的论点……
01:31
No, you, you, you . I'm asking you.
不，是你，你，你。我问的是你。
01:32
-I set... I set forth ... -Not we. You, you, you!
-我陈……我陈述了…… -不是我们。是你，你，你！
01:34
...our arguments against dropping it,
……我们反对投放的论点，
01:35
but I did not endorse them.
但我并没有附和那些论点。
01:37
You mean after working night and day
您是说夜以继日地干了
01:39
for three years building the bomb,
三年把炸弹造出来之后，
01:40
you then argued against the use of it?
您转头又反对使用它？
01:42
I was asked by the Secretary of War
陆军部长问我
01:45
what the views of scientists were.
科学家们是什么看法。
01:46
I gave him the views against and the views for.
我把反对的看法和赞成的看法都告诉了他。
01:49
You supported the dropping of the atom bomb on Japan.
您支持向日本投原子弹。
01:51
-What do you mean "support"? -Didn't you?
-「支持」是什么意思？ -难道不是吗？
01:52
-You supported it! -What do you mean "support"?
-您就是支持了！ -「支持」是什么意思？
01:53
Well, you helped pick the target, didn't you ?
那您帮着选了目标，不是吗？
01:55
I did my job .
我做了我的本职。
01:57
I was not in a policy-making position at Los Alamos .
我在洛斯阿拉莫斯并不处在决策岗位。
01:59
I would have done anything I was asked to do .
交办给我的事，我都会去做。
02:00
Well, then you would have built the H-bomb too,
那氢弹您也会造，
02:03
-wouldn't you? -I couldn't.
-对吧？ -我造不了。
02:04
I didn't ask you that, Doctor!
我没问您这个，博士！
02:06
And the GAC report which you co-authored
而您参与撰写的总顾问委员会报告
02:08
after the Soviet atomic test said
在苏联原子弹试验之后写道
02:10
a Super bomb should never be built!
超级炸弹永远不该造！
02:13
What we meant, what I meant was...
我们的意思，我的意思是……
02:14
-What you, who? Who? -What I meant...
-你说的你，谁？谁？ -我的意思是……
02:18
And wouldn't the Russians do anything
俄国人难道不会不惜一切
02:19
to increase their strength?
去增强他们的实力吗？
02:22
If we did it, they would have to do it.
我们做了，他们就不得不做。
02:24
Our efforts would only fuel their efforts ,
我们的努力只会给他们的努力加油，
02:26
just as it had with the atomic bomb.
就像当初原子弹那样。
02:28
"Just as it had with the atomic bomb," exactly!
「就像当初原子弹那样」，一点不错！
02:31
No moral scruples in 1945, plenty in 1949.
一九四五年没有道德顾忌，一九四九年倒有了一大堆。
02:40
Dr. Oppenheimer...
奥本海默博士……
02:44
...when did your strong moral convictions develop
……您那套强烈的道德信念是什么时候形成的
02:46
with respect to the hydrogen bomb?
就氢弹而言？
02:56
When it became clear to me
当我开始清楚看到
02:59
that we would tend to use any weapon we had .
一旦手里有武器，我们就会倾向于去用。
Language points
Click a card to jump to its moment in the videoCollocationB1↩ 00:04
assist in doing something
assist in doing something
协助做某事
In fact, Doctor, you assisted in selecting
事实上，博士，您参与挑选了
Pronunciation↩ 00:07
didn't you
didn't you 里 t 常弹成快拍。
- didn't you ? -Yes.
-对吧？ -是的。
GrammarB1↩ 00:13
that thousands of civilians would be killed
宾语从句：you knew that...：that 带出当时已知的后果。
that thousands of civilians would be killed
会有成千上万的平民被炸死
CollocationC1↩ 00:36
moral scruples about something
moral scruples about something
对某事的道德顾忌
Any moral scruples about that?
对此有任何道德顾忌吗？
Pronunciation↩ 00:46
Technically, it was
Technically 拉长，后面成功变轻。
Technically, it was very successful.
从技术上说，非常成功。
CollocationB2↩ 00:49
in support of something
in support of something
支持某事
Would you have been in support of the dropping
您会支持投下
GrammarC1↩ 00:49
Would you have been in support of
虚拟完成：Would you have been... 问的是当年若处在那种情况下会怎样。
Would you have been in support of the dropping
您会支持投下
CollocationA2↩ 00:53
make no sense at all
make no sense at all
完全说不通
That would make no sense at all .
那完全说不通。
CollocationB1↩ 01:01
opposed to something
opposed to something
反对某事
would you have been opposed to the dropping of it?
您会反对投下它吗？
GrammarC1↩ 01:03
with which I was confronted
介词前置从句：with which 把介词提前，比 which I was confronted with 更书面。
This was not a problem with which I was confronted ...
当时我并没有面对过这个问题……
CollocationB2↩ 01:05
confront someone with something
confront someone with something
拿某事当面逼问
Well, I'm confronting you with it now, sir.
那我现在就拿这个问题当面问您，先生。
Pronunciation↩ 01:12
fuckin' crown
fuckin' 吞掉 g，crown 砸下来。
to wear like a fuckin' crown.
好戴成一顶他妈的王冠。
SlangC1↩ 01:12
fuckin'
他妈的（加强骂）——极粗，听证旁白泄愤，课堂禁用
to wear like a fuckin' crown.
好戴成一顶他妈的王冠。
CollocationA2↩ 01:23
because of something
because of something
因为……（出于某种顾忌）
-because of moral scruples ? -Yes, I believe I would, sir.
-是出于道德顾忌吗？ -是的，我想我会反对，先生。
CollocationB2↩ 01:29
set forth something
set forth something
陈述、提出
We set forth our arguments...
我们陈述了我们的论点……
Pronunciation↩ 01:31
you, you, you
三个 you 一个比一个重。
No, you, you, you . I'm asking you.
不，是你，你，你。我问的是你。
CollocationB1↩ 01:37
work night and day
work night and day
夜以继日地干
You mean after working night and day
您是说夜以继日地干了
CollocationA2↩ 01:53
help pick something
help pick something
帮忙挑选
Well, you helped pick the target, didn't you ?
那您帮着选了目标，不是吗？
CollocationA2↩ 01:55
do one's job
do one's job
做了本职
I did my job .
我做了我的本职。
Pronunciation↩ 01:55
did my job
did 和 job 都砸下去，像盖章。
I did my job .
我做了我的本职。
CollocationB2↩ 01:57
a policy-making position
a policy-making position
决策岗位
I was not in a policy-making position at Los Alamos .
我在洛斯阿拉莫斯并不处在决策岗位。
Pronunciation↩ 01:57
Los Alamos
重音在 A，Alamos 后半快收。
I was not in a policy-making position at Los Alamos .
我在洛斯阿拉莫斯并不处在决策岗位。
CollocationA2↩ 01:59
be asked to do something
be asked to do something
被要求去做
I would have done anything I was asked to do .
交办给我的事，我都会去做。
GrammarB2↩ 01:59
anything I was asked to do
省略关系词：anything 后省掉 that，I was asked to do 修饰 anything。
I would have done anything I was asked to do .
交办给我的事，我都会去做。
SlangB2↩ 02:00
H-bomb
氢弹——简称，正式可写 hydrogen bomb
Well, then you would have built the H-bomb too,
那氢弹您也会造，
CollocationB2↩ 02:06
co-author something
co-author something
合写、共同执笔
And the GAC report which you co-authored
而您参与撰写的总顾问委员会报告
GrammarB1↩ 02:06
which you co-authored
定语从句：which 指那份报告，强调是他参与写的。
And the GAC report which you co-authored
而您参与撰写的总顾问委员会报告
SlangC1↩ 02:10
Super bomb
超级炸弹（氢弹）——当时圈内叫法，书面写氢弹
a Super bomb should never be built!
超级炸弹永远不该造！
CollocationB2↩ 02:24
fuel someone's efforts
fuel someone's efforts
给他们的努力加把火
Our efforts would only fuel their efforts ,
我们的努力只会给他们的努力加油，
CollocationB2↩ 02:46
with respect to something
with respect to something
就……而言
with respect to the hydrogen bomb?
就氢弹而言？
CollocationB1↩ 02:56
become clear to someone
become clear to someone
某人开始明白
When it became clear to me
当我开始清楚看到
CollocationB1↩ 02:59
tend to do something
tend to do something
往往会去做
that we would tend to use any weapon we had .
一旦手里有武器，我们就会倾向于去用。
GrammarB2↩ 02:59
any weapon we had
定语从句：weapon 后省 that，we had 限定是手里已有的武器。
that we would tend to use any weapon we had .
一旦手里有武器，我们就会倾向于去用。
Pronunciation↩ 02:59
tend to use
to 弱成 /tə/，tend 和 use 清楚。
that we would tend to use any weapon we had .
一旦手里有武器，我们就会倾向于去用。
Teaching points
Review right after watchingMy level
above my level
SwearingC1↩ 01:12
fuckin' crown
他妈的王冠
In the scene斯特劳斯旁白，骂奥本海默把愧疚当王冠炫耀。
He wore that apology like a cheap medal.他把那句道歉戴成一枚廉价奖章。
In daily life
吐槽作秀He posts the donation shot like a trophy.他发那张捐款照，像在秀奖杯。
above my level
IronyC1↩ 00:44
technically successful
技术上成功（躲开道德）
In the scene检察官说轰炸很成功，他立刻把成功收成技术。
Technically the meeting ended on time. Nobody agreed on a next step.从技术上说会准时结束了。下一步谁都没同意。
In daily life
验收扯皮Technically the build is green. The button still does nothing.从技术上说构建是绿的。按钮还是没反应。
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IdiomB1↩ 01:55
do one's job
做了本职、守住职责
In the scene被问是否支持投弹，他不接「支持」，只说做了分内事。
I submitted the numbers. The cutoff was not my call.数字我交了。砍不砍不是我拍板。
In daily life
客服甩锅I followed the script. Refunds sit with finance.我按话术走了。退款归财务。
above my level
CollocationC1↩ 00:36
moral scruples
道德顾忌、良心不安
In the scene检察官拿二十二万死者逼问，他答：顾忌大得很。
She had moral scruples about hiding the side effects.她对隐瞒副作用有道德顾忌。
In daily life
拒写假数I have scruples about rounding those injuries down.把那些伤情往小了圆，我过意不去。
above my level
Phrasal verbB2↩ 01:29
set forth
陈述、提出论点
In the scene他想躲进「我们」：科学家把正反意见都摆出来了。
The memo set forth both the risks and the upside.备忘录把风险和好处都摆了出来。
In daily life
开会汇报Set forth the cons first, or they will smell a sell.先把反对意见摆出来，不然他们会觉得你在推销。
above my level
DiscourseB2↩ 01:31
not we, you
不许躲进集体，问的是你
In the scene他一说 we，检察官连砸三个 you，把责任钉死在个人。
Don't hide in the team. I asked what you signed.别躲进团队里。我问的是你签了什么。
In daily life
追责加班Not the squad. You. Who sent that mail?不是小队。是你。那封邮件谁发的？
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IdiomB1↩ 01:37
night and day
夜以继日、连轴转
In the scene检察官挖苦：造了三年，转头又反对使用。
They coded night and day, then argued not to ship it.他们夜以继日写代码，然后又争着不要上线。
In daily life
备考吐槽I drilled night and day and still blanked the oral.我夜以继日刷题，口试还是卡壳。
above my level
VocabularyC1↩ 02:46
with respect to
就……而言、针对
In the scene检察官问：对氢弹的道德信念是何时长出来的。
With respect to overtime, the policy still says no.就加班而言，规定仍是不行。
In daily life
邮件回复With respect to the refund, we need the receipt first.就退款而言，我们得先看到收据。
Golden lines
A great line in its own right — why and how to use it“I did my job.”
我做了我的本职。
Why it's great
四个词把道德追问挡回去，听着像尽责，其实是拒绝说「我支持」。
Pattern
I did my job.
When to use
被逼表态、只想守住职责边界时。
Similar
That wasn't my call. ／ I stayed in my lane.
Register
informal
Shadowing tip
did 和 job 同重，句末下沉封口。
Use it yourself
甩锅决策I logged the hours. The launch call was not mine.工时我记了。启不启动不是我拍板。
“Technically, it was very successful.”
从技术上说，非常成功。
Why it's great
一个副词把「成功」从死人改成仪器，礼貌里全是躲闪。
Pattern
Technically, it was + 形容词.
When to use
承认事实、但不接受对方那个评价时。
Similar
On paper, it worked. ／ As a test, it succeeded.
Register
formal
Shadowing tip
Technically 拉长后停，successful 再落下。
Use it yourself
复盘项目Technically, the app shipped. Nobody could log in.从技术上说，应用上线了。没人登得进去。
“that we would tend to use any weapon we had.”
一旦手里有武器，我们就会倾向于去用。
Why it's great
把后悔收成一条人性定律，比认错更冷。
Pattern
tend to + 动词 + any + 名词 + we had
When to use
讲人一旦有手段就会用时。
Similar
If we have it, we use it. ／ Power tends to get spent.
Register
literary
Shadowing tip
tend to 轻，any weapon 咬死，had 落下。
Use it yourself
谈监控权Give a team that dashboard, and they tend to watch everyone.给团队那个看板，他们往往会盯上所有人。
Monologue
One character carrying the scene — shadow the whole passage❝ 斯特劳斯骂愧疚是王冠
It was all part of his plan. He wanted the glorious, insincere guilt of the self-important to wear like a fuckin' crown. Say, "No, we cannot go down this road," even as he knew we'd have to.
这全是他计划的一部分。 他要那份光辉的、 自命不凡者虚伪的愧疚 好戴成一顶他妈的王冠。 嘴上说：「不，我们不能走这条路，」 哪怕他心里清楚我们不得不走。
旁白把公开反对说成预定表演，一句王冠钉死虚伪。