Zodiac · 2007 — Chapter 17 of 30 · 5'05" · C1

Police Question Arthur Leigh Allen, Explained: the whole point

Detectives work through an informant's claims, item by item, trying to catch a suspect in a lie. He explains every detail — the dive trip, the bloody knives, the hand he writes with — and then stonewalls: "I'm not the Zodiac. And if I was, I certainly wouldn't tell you."

What happens

Acting on an informant's tip, two investigators question Arthur Leigh Allen. They walk him through the Salt Point dive trip, the knives in his car, his left-handedness, and the Riverside killing, while he offers an explanation for each. When the talk turns to a favorite novel about hunting men, he grows almost eager.

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the whole point

the central idea or purpose

Allen 谈起《最危险的游戏》,说人是最危险的猎物,并说这就是整篇故事的核心,用这句话给自己的兴趣下定义。

The whole point of the exercise is to stay calm.

Also in this scene

  • look forward to

    to await something with pleasure

  • take a look at

    to look at something

  • warrant further investigation

    to be serious enough to deserve more investigation

Everything marked in this scene

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Phrase · B2make statementsThe informant notified us that you made certain statements
Phrase · C1quite incriminatingIf they're true, they're quite incriminating.
Phrase · B2recall having done somethingDo you recall having any such conversation?
SoundDo you

weak form

Do you recall having any such conversation?
Grammar · B2Have you ever read or heard anything about the Zodiac

present perfect question

-No. -Have you ever read or heard anything about the Zodiac?
Phrase · B1follow a storyBut I didn't follow it after those first reports.
Phrase · B2too morbid-Why not? -Too morbid. I...
Phrase · A2right after somethingNo, but it was right after the murder at the lake.
Soundright after

flap

No, but it was right after the murder at the lake.
Phrase · A2that would be greatThat would be great, Arthur.
Phrase · B1nobody calls someone somethingLeigh. Nobody calls me Arthur.
Phrase · A2come homeAlso, that day when I came home, my neighbor saw me.
Phrase · B1a week or soHe died a week or so afterwards.
Phrase · B2think to do somethingHeart attack. So I didn't think to call to follow up.
Phrase · C1call the police on someoneMaybe Bill saw them and called the other officer on me.
Phrase · B2check in on somethingWell, we'll be checking in on that.
Phrase · B1around that timeWell, I guess I was there around that time.
Phrase · B2write with both handsYou can't write with both hands?
Phrase · B2try to make someone do somethingMy teachers tried to make me when I was a kid, but I couldn't.
Grammar · B2tried to make me when I was a kid

make someone do something

My teachers tried to make me when I was a kid, but I couldn't.
Phrase · B2a horrible thing to sayThat is horrible. That is... That's a horrible thing to say.
Phrase · B2angry about being firedSo, you weren't angry about being fired from Valley Springs for touching your students?
Grammar · C1angry about being fired from Valley Springs

passive gerund

So, you weren't angry about being fired from Valley Springs for touching your students?
Phrase · B1wouldn't tell someoneAnd if I was, I certainly wouldn't tell you.
Grammar · C1if I was, I certainly wouldn't tell you

unreal conditional

And if I was, I certainly wouldn't tell you.
Phrase · B1a gift from someoneIt was a Christmas gift from my mother two years ago.
Phrase · A2very sweetThat's very sweet.
Phrase · B2couldn't be positiveBut I couldn't be positive.
Grammar · B2this man who waits for people to get shipwrecked on this island

relative clause

It's about this man who waits for people to get shipwrecked on this island.
Phrase · B2be tired of doing somethingBecause he was tired of hunting animals, he hunted the people for the challenge.
Phrase · B1the most dangerous ...And man is the most dangerous animal of all?
Phrase · B2the whole point of something

the central idea or purpose

That's the whole point of the story.
Phrase · A2at leastOr, at least, that's what I told Phil.
Phrase · B1be willing to do something-Thanks for your time. -I'm willing to help in any way possible.
Soundwilling to help

weak form

-Thanks for your time. -I'm willing to help in any way possible.
Phrase · B1look forward to something

to await something with pleasure

I look forward to the day
Phrase · C1refer to someone as somethingwhen police officers are no longer referred to as pigs.
Slang · C1pigswhen police officers are no longer referred to as pigs.
Phrase · B1be in touchWe'll be in touch.
Soundbe in touch

liaison

We'll be in touch.
Phrase · C1warrant further investigation

to be serious enough to deserve more investigation

So does anyone think this suspect warrants further investigation?
Phrase · A2take a look at something

to look at something

We'd like you to take a look at them.
Grammar · B2We'd like you to take a look at them

would like someone to do something

We'd like you to take a look at them.
Phrase · A2arrest someoneAre you going to arrest him?

Police Question Arthur Leigh Allen, explained

What's really going on

This is the film's longest face-to-face look at its prime suspect, and it never resolves into proof. The investigators do the work carefully, matching the informant's claims to small facts, and the suspect answers with a calm that could be innocence or control. He agrees that "man is the most dangerous animal of all" is the point of a book he loved, then closes the door with "I'm not the Zodiac. And if I was, I certainly wouldn't tell you." Nothing he says can be used, and that is the scene's real subject: a case that keeps producing plausible men and no confession. The film lets the audience feel the pull of the theory and the frustration of the missing proof at the same time.

Theme

GuiltThe suspect answers every accusation without ever admitting or denying, leaving guilt unresolved.
IdentityA name, a watch, a favorite book and handwriting all point at a man who insists he is not the killer.

What you'll learn

  • They ask if he recalls the incriminating talk; he says no.
  • He claims Salt Point diving, a neighbor dead of a heart attack, and chicken blood on the knives.
  • He corrects them: Leigh. Nobody calls him Arthur.
  • He denies being ambidextrous and says he is left-handed.

Listen for

  • Do you — weak form
  • right after — flap
  • willing to help — weak form
  • be in touch — liaison
And if I was, I certainly wouldn't tell you.

A deliberate non-answer: he refuses to confirm or deny, and turns the interrogation back on the investigators.

That is horrible. That is... That's a horrible thing to say.

His reaction to the claim that he threatened schoolchildren, repeating the word as if the accusation itself is the offense.

That's the whole point of the story.

He explains the theme of a novel about a man who hunts people, treating the idea with open fascination.

And man is the most dangerous animal of all?

The investigator echoes the line the Zodiac used, testing whether the suspect will recognize or defend it.

Questions about this scene

Why do the police question Arthur Leigh Allen?

An informant reports statements he allegedly made about the Zodiac, so investigators bring him in to test the claims against him.

Why does he want to be called Leigh, not Arthur?

He corrects the investigator sharply — nobody calls him Arthur — which is a small way of controlling the room.

What does the watch detail suggest?

The Zodiac's symbol may have come from a watch like his, so the investigators want a look at it, and he says it was a Christmas gift from his mother.

Does the interrogation prove anything?

No. He offers explanations for the knives, the trip, and his handwriting, and the scene ends without evidence strong enough to charge him.

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