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Everything you need before watchingThe Spotlight team has matched directory labels—sick leave, unassigned—to Saviano's priests. Mike puts Richard Sipe on speaker. The former priest argues that mandatory celibacy breeds secrecy, and secrecy protects abusers. Then he drops a number: six percent of all priests. In Boston that is about ninety men. The room splits between shock and method: Matt wants to search the directories backwards, hunting designations instead of waiting for victims.
迈
Mike Rezendesinvestigative reporter
理
Richard Sipeformer priest expert
罗
Walter Robinsoninvestigations editor
马
Marty Baroneditor in chief
马
Matt Carrollinvestigative reporter
萨
Sacha Pfeifferinvestigative reporter
Chapters
21 parts · AI-cut01Baron Meets Robinson新上司见面先谈裁员不谈球B22'14"02First Meeting Geoghan有人第一天就想把教会告上法庭B22'40"03MacLeish Shitty Cases律师把儿童案子说成很难打C11'56"04Garabedian First Visit有人说教会是按世纪来想问题C12'22"05Cardinal Law Meeting权势人物请客时劝你别单独硬刚C11'46"06Saviano Tells SNAP信仰被夺走的过程从头讲清C14'20"07Cafe Survivor Interviews有人逼你把伤害说得足够具体C17'17"08MacLeish No Paper Trail和解协议把一切都按进私下调解C11'55"09Takes A Village有人说伤害孩子得整座城一起沉默C11'47"10Sipe Six Percent有人用百分比把丑闻算成规模C13'42"11Eighty-Seven Names档案室里人名对上才知道有多少B21'42"12Parking Lot Ultimatum有人拿两篇稿逼你交出名单C11'35"13Go After The System上司要你打制度不打单个人C11'47"14Springfield Hearing法庭上有人禁止你点名那位领导C11'59"15Sealed Docs Are Public有人告诉你封存文件其实已经公开C13'05"16Get On The Same Page校友会把捂事说成大家先统一口径C12'36"17Proof Versus Rush铁证在手仍有人坚持不能抢发C12'52"18How It Happens熟人劝酒时把整座城的沉默说圆C12'12"19Six Weeks To Publish胜诉之后仍有人要求先把全貌写完C13'30"20Where Were You有人问你明明都知道为何现在才来C12'10"21Why We Do This截稿夜里有人追问自己为何来晚C14'30"
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00:02
I've been through a lot of these now.
这类我已经看过很多了。
00:04
"Sick leave" isn't the only designation they use
「病假」不是他们用的唯一名目
00:05
when they take one of these priests out of circulation .
把这些神父从一线撤走的时候。
00:07
They use a slew of terms. "Absent on leave,"
他们有一大堆说法。「请假不在岗」
00:10
"unassigned," "emergency response."
「未派职」「应急响应」。
00:12
They got a word for everything, these guys. Hmm. Except "rape."
这些人什么词都有。嗯。就没有「强奸」。
00:16
And they move parishes way more frequently than other priests.
而且他们换堂区比别的神父勤多了。
00:18
When I was a kid, a priest moved
我小时候，神父调动
00:19
after seven or eight years, sometimes longer.
得干满七年八年，有时更久。
00:21
These guys, it's two to three years tops .
这帮人，顶多两三年。
00:24
And did they use these designations for all of Saviano's priests?
萨维亚诺名单上那些神父，都用这些名目吗？
00:26
Yeah, it's a pretty clear pattern.
对，规律相当清楚。
00:28
Guys, I got Sipe.
各位，西普接通了。
00:30
I think if you really want to understand the crisis,
要真想搞懂这场危机，
00:33
you need to start with the celibacy requirement.
得先从独身要求说起。
00:36
That was my first major finding.
那是我第一个重大发现。
00:38
Only 50% of the clergy are celibate.
神职人员里只有百分之五十在守独身。
00:42
Now, most of them are having sex with other adults.
他们大多数是跟其他成年人发生性关系。
00:45
But the fact remains that this creates a culture of secrecy
可事实仍然是：这会造出一种保密文化
00:48
that tolerates and even protects pedophiles .
它容忍甚至保护恋童者。
00:52
So you believe the Church is aware of the extent of this crisis?
所以你认为教会清楚这场危机有多大？
00:56
Oh, absolutely. After the first major scandal in Louisiana,
那还用说。路易斯安那第一桩大丑闻之后，
01:00
Tom Doyle, the secretary-canonist for the papal nuncio,
汤姆·多伊尔，教廷大使那边的秘书兼教会法专家，
01:03
co-authored a report warning pedophile priests
参与写过一份报告，警告恋童神父
01:06
were a billion-dollar liability.
会是十亿美元的赔偿责任。
01:08
That was in 1985.
那是一九八五年。
01:10
1985? That's right.
一九八五？没错。
01:13
Who saw that report? Anyone from the Catholic hierarchy?
谁看过那份报告？天主教高层有人看吗？
01:16
Sure.
当然。
01:18
Doyle tried to introduce the report at
多伊尔试图把报告提交给
01:19
the National Conference of Catholic Bishops.
全美天主教主教会议。
01:22
In fact, Cardinal Law initially helped to fund the report.
其实劳主教一开始还出钱资助这份报告。
01:26
But then he backed out , and they shelved it .
后来他撤了，报告就被搁置了。
01:28
Are you kidding me?
你开玩笑吧？
01:29
Richard, Robby here.
理查德，我是罗比。
01:32
We think we have 13 priests in Boston that fit this pattern,
我们觉得波士顿有十三名神父符合这个规律，
01:36
which would be a very, very big story .
那会是一条非常、非常大的新闻。
01:40
Does that sound right to you in terms of scale?
就规模来说，你觉得靠谱吗？
01:44
No, not really, Robby. It sounds low to me.
不太靠谱，罗比。我觉得偏低。
01:48
My estimates suggest 6% act out sexually with minors.
我的估计是，百分之六会对未成年人发生性行为。
01:53
Uh, 6% of what?
呃，百分之六的什么？
01:55
6% of all priests.
所有神父的百分之六。
01:57
How many priests do we have in Boston?
波士顿有多少神父？
01:59
About 1,500. 1% is 15.
大概一千五。百分之一是十五。
02:01
6% is
百分之六就是
02:06
All right, 90 priests. Is that possible?
好，九十个神父。有可能吗？
02:10
From a metric standpoint ,
从数据角度看，
02:12
yes, that would certainly be in line with my findings.
对，这跟我的发现完全对得上。
02:22
Hello?
喂？
02:23
Uh...
呃……
02:26
Ninety fucking priests? In Boston?
九十个他妈的神父？在波士顿？
02:28
That's what he said.
他就是这么说的。
02:31
If there were 90 of these bastards, people would know.
要真有九十个这种畜生，人们会知道的。
02:33
Maybe they do.
也许他们知道。
02:35
And no one said a thing?
然后谁都没吭声？
02:37
Good Germans?
好德国人？
02:39
I don't think that's a comparison you want to make publically.
这个比方，我不建议你公开讲。
02:42
Macleish knew. He just didn't say anything.
麦克利什知道。他只是没说。
02:45
That's 13 priests.
那是十三名神父。
02:46
There's a big difference between 13 and 90.
十三和九十，差得大了。
02:49
Where's this guy Sipe getting his numbers?
这西普的数字是哪来的？
02:50
Well, he's been studying it for 30 years.
他研究这个三十年了。
02:52
He is a trained psychotherapist.
他是受过训练的心理治疗师。
02:54
Okay, but we need something more than a metric
行，可我们不能只靠一个指标
02:57
from some hippy ex-priest who's shacking up with a nun.
来自某个跟修女同居的嬉皮前神父。
03:00
Okay, so we'll track down more victims. We'll get more priests.
那我们就再找更多受害者。再锁定更多神父。
03:03
Then we can check them against the directories.
然后再拿名录去核对。
03:06
That's a shitload of victims.
那得多少受害者啊，海了去了。
03:07
We'll get there.
我们会查到的。
03:09
How long's it gonna take?
得花多久？
03:11
Too long.
太久了。
03:14
Wait, but... Meeting's over?
等等，可是……会开完了？
03:17
Yeah, for now .
对，先到这儿。
03:19
Look, what've you got? What if we work backwards ?
听着，你手上有什么？要是我们倒过来查呢？
03:22
What do you mean? From what? From the directories.
什么意思？从哪儿倒？从名录倒。
03:24
We've been using them to confirm bad priests.
我们一直用名录去确认坏神父。
03:26
What if we do it the other way around ?
要是反过来做呢？
03:27
Use the directories to identify bad priests. Yeah, exactly.
用名录去找出坏神父。对，就是这个。
03:30
We search by designation .
按名目搜。
03:32
We look for any priest on "sick leave" or "unassigned."
找所有「病假」或「未派职」的神父。
03:34
Or have been moved around a lot. Yeah.
或者被调来调去很多次的。对。
03:37
It's gonna take a load of work .
这得干一大摊活。
03:38
Well, not if we're all on it.
要是大家都上手，就没那么多。
03:40
You, too?
你也上？
03:42
Generally that's what "all" means . Yeah. Yeah, generally.
一般来说，「都」就是这个意思。对。对，一般来说。
Language points
Click a card to jump to its moment in the videoCollocationA2↩ 00:02
been through a lot
been through a lot
经历过很多这类事
I've been through a lot of these now.
这类我已经看过很多了。
Pronunciation↩ 00:02
I've been through
I've 缩成 /aɪv/，been 轻读
I've been through a lot of these now.
这类我已经看过很多了。
CollocationB2↩ 00:05
take someone out of circulation
take someone out of circulation
让某人退出一线
这里=把神父从堂区抽走
when they take one of these priests out of circulation .
把这些神父从一线撤走的时候。
GrammarB1↩ 00:05
when they take one of these priests out of circulation
时间状语从句：when 带出他们把神父抽走的那个时刻，主句在上一行。
when they take one of these priests out of circulation .
把这些神父从一线撤走的时候。
Pronunciation↩ 00:05
out of circulation
out of 连成 ou-təv，circulation 重音在 la
when they take one of these priests out of circulation .
把这些神父从一线撤走的时候。
CollocationB1↩ 00:07
a slew of something
a slew of something
一大堆
They use a slew of terms. "Absent on leave,"
他们有一大堆说法。「请假不在岗」
Pronunciation↩ 00:07
a slew of
slew of 连成 slew-əv
They use a slew of terms. "Absent on leave,"
他们有一大堆说法。「请假不在岗」
CollocationB1↩ 00:21
something tops
something tops
顶多、最多
These guys, it's two to three years tops .
这帮人，顶多两三年。
SlangB1↩ 00:21
tops
顶多、最多——口语上限，书面改 at most
These guys, it's two to three years tops .
这帮人，顶多两三年。
CollocationB2↩ 00:45
the fact remains that
the fact remains that
事实仍然是
But the fact remains that this creates a culture of secrecy
可事实仍然是：这会造出一种保密文化
GrammarB2↩ 00:45
the fact remains that this creates a culture of secrecy
that从句：the fact remains that + 完整句：先承认前面，再钉死事实。
But the fact remains that this creates a culture of secrecy
可事实仍然是：这会造出一种保密文化
GrammarB1↩ 00:48
that tolerates and even protects pedophiles
定语从句：that 指向上文 culture of secrecy，后面两个动词并列。
that tolerates and even protects pedophiles .
它容忍甚至保护恋童者。
CollocationB2↩ 01:26
back out
back out
中途退出、反悔
But then he backed out , and they shelved it .
后来他撤了，报告就被搁置了。
CollocationB2↩ 01:26
shelf something
shelf something
把某事搁置
But then he backed out , and they shelved it .
后来他撤了，报告就被搁置了。
GrammarB2↩ 01:36
which would be a very, very big story
非限定定语：which 接整件「十三名神父」的事，would 表推测后果。
which would be a very, very big story .
那会是一条非常、非常大的新闻。
CollocationB1↩ 01:40
in terms of something
in terms of something
就…而言
Does that sound right to you in terms of scale?
就规模来说，你觉得靠谱吗？
CollocationC1↩ 01:48
act out
act out
把冲动付诸行动
这里=对未成年人发生性行为
My estimates suggest 6% act out sexually with minors.
我的估计是，百分之六会对未成年人发生性行为。
CollocationB2↩ 02:10
from a ... standpoint
from a ... standpoint
从某指标角度看
From a metric standpoint ,
从数据角度看，
CollocationB2↩ 02:12
in line with something
in line with something
与…相符
yes, that would certainly be in line with my findings.
对，这跟我的发现完全对得上。
Pronunciation↩ 02:12
in line with my
in line 连成 in-line，with my 成 with-my
yes, that would certainly be in line with my findings.
对，这跟我的发现完全对得上。
Pronunciation↩ 02:26
Ninety fucking priests
Ninety 拉长，fucking 最重，priests 砸下去
Ninety fucking priests? In Boston?
九十个他妈的神父？在波士顿？
SlangC1↩ 02:26
fucking
加强震惊的脏话——极粗，只在熟人间爆发时用
Ninety fucking priests? In Boston?
九十个他妈的神父？在波士顿？
SlangB2↩ 02:57
shacking up
未婚同居——带贬义的口语，书面改 live with
from some hippy ex-priest who's shacking up with a nun.
来自某个跟修女同居的嬉皮前神父。
CollocationB1↩ 03:00
track down someone
track down someone
把某人找到
Okay, so we'll track down more victims. We'll get more priests.
那我们就再找更多受害者。再锁定更多神父。
CollocationB1↩ 03:03
check something against something
check something against something
拿A去对B核对
Then we can check them against the directories.
然后再拿名录去核对。
SlangC1↩ 03:06
shitload
老多了、海了去了——粗口表数量大，正式改 a lot
That's a shitload of victims.
那得多少受害者啊，海了去了。
SlangA2↩ 03:09
gonna
将要（going to）——口语连读，写作改 going to
How long's it gonna take?
得花多久？
CollocationA2↩ 03:17
for now
for now
暂时先这样
Yeah, for now .
对，先到这儿。
CollocationB1↩ 03:19
work backwards
work backwards
倒过来做
Look, what've you got? What if we work backwards ?
听着，你手上有什么？要是我们倒过来查呢？
GrammarA2↩ 03:19
What if we work backwards?
What if建议：What if + 现在时：提出另一种做法，不是真的虚拟过去。
Look, what've you got? What if we work backwards ?
听着，你手上有什么？要是我们倒过来查呢？
CollocationB1↩ 03:26
the other way around
the other way around
反过来
What if we do it the other way around ?
要是反过来做呢？
Pronunciation↩ 03:26
other way around
the 弱读，way around 连成 way-around
What if we do it the other way around ?
要是反过来做呢？
CollocationB1↩ 03:30
search by something
search by something
按某个名目搜
We search by designation .
按名目搜。
CollocationA2↩ 03:37
a load of something
a load of something
一大摊活
It's gonna take a load of work .
这得干一大摊活。
GrammarB1↩ 03:42
that's what "all" means
what表语从句：that's what X means：用定义把「全员」钉死，带点刺。
Generally that's what "all" means . Yeah. Yeah, generally.
一般来说，「都」就是这个意思。对。对，一般来说。
Teaching points
Review right after watchingMy level
above my level
SwearingC1↩ 02:26
fucking
加强震惊的脏话
In the scene算出九十人后，有人把数字骂出来，不敢信波士顿有这么多。
Twenty failed audits? In one quarter?二十次审计没过？就一个季度？
In daily life
看到账单Eight hundred dollars? For a weekend?八百块？就一个周末？
above my level
IronyC1↩ 00:12
except rape
什么词都有就没有强奸
In the scene迈克列完病假、未派职，最后补一刀：他们独缺那个罪名。
The memo names every delay. It never names the leak.备忘录把每一种延误都写了。唯独不写泄漏。
In daily life
看公司通报They have a code for every absence. None of them say fired.每种缺勤都有代号。没有一个写开除。
above my level
IdiomC1↩ 02:37
good germans
明知却沉默的旁观者
In the scene有人用这个历史标签问：九十个施虐者，全城怎么一声不吭。
Don't call the neighbors that. It turns silence into a war crime.别这么称呼邻居。那是把沉默说成战争罪。
In daily life
劝别乱比That comparison will blow up the meeting. Find another phrase.这个比方会把会炸了。换个说法。
auto-pauses
IdiomB1↩ 03:26
the other way around
反过来做
In the scene马特建议：别再用名录确认坏神父，用名录把人挖出来。
We have been matching faces to badges. Try it the other way around.我们一直拿脸去对工牌。试着反过来。
In daily life
改检索方式Don't search by name. Do it the other way around: search by date.别按名字搜。反过来：按日期搜。
above my level
Phrasal verbB2↩ 01:26
back out
中途退出、反悔
In the scene西普说劳主教先出钱资助报告，后来撤走，报告被搁置。
Two sponsors backed out the week before the hearing.听证会前一周，两个赞助方撤了。
In daily life
有人毁约Don't back out after you signed the room booking.订了会议室就别反悔。
above my level
CollocationB2↩ 02:12
in line with
与…相符、对得上
In the scene编辑部算出九十人，西普说这跟他的研究对得上。
The new count is in line with last year's audit.新计数跟去年审计对得上。
In daily life
核对预算These quotes are in line with what finance approved.这些报价跟财务批过的相符。
above my level
IdiomB2↩ 00:05
out of circulation
退出流通、从一线撤走
In the scene迈克说教会用病假等名目，把出问题的神父从堂区抽走。
After the complaint, they took the coach out of circulation for a month.投诉之后，他们让教练停岗一个月。
In daily life
产品下架That batch is out of circulation until the lab signs off.这批货先停发，等实验室签字。
above my level
SlangB2↩ 02:57
shack up with
未婚同居
In the scene马丁·贝隆贬西普：嬉皮前神父，还跟修女住一起，数字不够硬。
They want a source who is not shacking up with a source.他们要一个没跟线人同居的消息源。
In daily life
吐槽八卦She left the dorm and shacked up with a classmate.她搬出宿舍，跟同学同居了。
Golden lines
A great line in its own right — why and how to use it“My estimates suggest 6% act out sexually with minors.”
我的估计是，百分之六会对未成年人发生性行为。
Why it's great
用百分比把丑闻说成可计算的规模，冷静得吓人。
Pattern
estimates suggest + 数字
When to use
引用研究、把模糊危机说成可核验的比例时。
Similar
The data suggest about 6%. ／ We're looking at roughly 6%.
Register
formal
Shadowing tip
estimates 稍顿，six percent 咬清，minors 下沉。
Use it yourself
汇报抽检Our sample suggests 8% of shipments miss the seal check.抽检显示百分之八的货没过封条检查。
“Ninety fucking priests? In Boston?”
九十个他妈的神父？在波士顿？
Why it's great
脏话把乘法结果砸在桌上，城市名再钉死一次。
Pattern
数字 + fucking + 名词？
When to use
听到大到不像话的数字、当场炸开时。
Similar
Ninety priests? Here? ／ That many? In this city?
Register
informal
Shadowing tip
Ninety 拉长，fucking 加重，Boston 上扬。
Use it yourself
听到裁员Forty people gone? On one floor?四十个人没了？就一层楼？
“What if we do it the other way around?”
要是我们反过来做呢？
Why it's great
一句话把调查方向拧过来，从确认改成发现。
Pattern
What if we do it the other way around?
When to use
方法走不通、建议对调步骤时。
Similar
What if we reverse it? ／ Let's flip the process.
Register
informal
Shadowing tip
What if 轻轻带过，other way around 咬清。
Use it yourself
改排查顺序What if we start from the archive and work toward the names?要是我们从档案倒查回人名呢？
Monologue
One character carrying the scene — shadow the whole passage❝ 西普讲保密文化
I think if you really want to understand the crisis, you need to start with the celibacy requirement. That was my first major finding. Now, most of them are having sex with other adults. But the fact remains that this creates a culture of secrecy that tolerates and even protects pedophiles.
要真想搞懂这场危机， 得先从独身要求说起。 那是我第一个重大发现。 他们大多数是跟其他成年人发生性关系。 可事实仍然是：这会造出一种保密文化 它容忍甚至保护恋童者。
从独身要求推到保护恋童者，把危机说成制度。