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Everything you need before watchingThe Spotlight team sits down with attorney Eric MacLeish, who settled clergy-abuse cases against priests like Paul Shanley. He stonewalls first: the deals are confidential, and he could lose his license for even admitting they exist. Then he talks anyway. Victims got a sit-down with the bishop and a little money. The Church promised to take priests out of circulation. Mike already checked the courthouse. There are no records. This was private mediation: lawyers in a room, nothing on paper.
麦
Eric MacLeishsettlement lawyer
迈
Mike Rezendesinvestigative reporter
萨
Sacha Pfeifferinvestigative reporter
Chapters
21 parts · AI-cut01Baron Meets Robinson新上司见面先谈裁员不谈球B22'14"02First Meeting Geoghan有人第一天就想把教会告上法庭B22'40"03MacLeish Shitty Cases律师把儿童案子说成很难打C11'56"04Garabedian First Visit有人说教会是按世纪来想问题C12'22"05Cardinal Law Meeting权势人物请客时劝你别单独硬刚C11'46"06Saviano Tells SNAP信仰被夺走的过程从头讲清C14'20"07Cafe Survivor Interviews有人逼你把伤害说得足够具体C17'17"08MacLeish No Paper Trail和解协议把一切都按进私下调解C11'55"09Takes A Village有人说伤害孩子得整座城一起沉默C11'47"10Sipe Six Percent有人用百分比把丑闻算成规模C13'42"11Eighty-Seven Names档案室里人名对上才知道有多少B21'42"12Parking Lot Ultimatum有人拿两篇稿逼你交出名单C11'35"13Go After The System上司要你打制度不打单个人C11'47"14Springfield Hearing法庭上有人禁止你点名那位领导C11'59"15Sealed Docs Are Public有人告诉你封存文件其实已经公开C13'05"16Get On The Same Page校友会把捂事说成大家先统一口径C12'36"17Proof Versus Rush铁证在手仍有人坚持不能抢发C12'52"18How It Happens熟人劝酒时把整座城的沉默说圆C12'12"19Six Weeks To Publish胜诉之后仍有人要求先把全貌写完C13'30"20Where Were You有人问你明明都知道为何现在才来C12'10"21Why We Do This截稿夜里有人追问自己为何来晚C14'30"
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00:02
Thanks for waiting . So sorry, guys. Stuck on a call .
让你们久等了。真抱歉，伙计们。刚才电话没打完。
00:04
Not a problem . How are you? Good.
没事。你好吗？挺好。
00:06
Thanks for meeting us. You bet . What's up, guys?
谢谢你见我们。那必须的。怎么了，伙计们？
00:08
Mr. Macleish, are you familiar with a priest named Paul Shanley?
麦克利什先生，你认不认识一个叫保罗·山利的神父？
00:12
Yes, I am familiar with him.
认识，我认识他。
00:16
And have you settled cases against Father Shanley?
那你有没有就山利神父的案子达成过和解？
00:19
As I'm sure you can understand , I can't discuss that with you .
你们也明白，这个我不能跟你们谈。
00:24
How about , uh, Father Ronald Paquin?
那罗纳德·帕坎神父呢？
00:28
Well, I can't discuss that with you either. Come on , guys.
这个我同样不能谈。得了吧，伙计们。
00:32
We understand you've settled several cases against each of them.
我们了解到，他们每人你都和解过好几桩。
00:36
Even if I'd been involved in those cases,
就算我真参与过那些案子，
00:38
the settlements would be confidential,
和解内容也是保密的，
00:40
and I could be disbarred for acknowledging their existence.
我要是承认它们存在，都可能被取消律师资格。
00:44
Okay? Mmm-hmm.
明白了？嗯。
00:46
Look, I told you guys, these are tough cases.
听着，我跟你们说过，这些案子很难打。
00:50
Most of these folks, they just want some acknowledgment
这些人里大多数，只想要一点承认，
00:53
of what happened.
承认那件事发生过。
00:55
We got 'em a sit-down with the bishop and a little dough ,
我们给他们争取到跟主教见一面，再加一点钱，
00:57
and that's the best they could hope for .
这已经是他们能指望的最好结果了。
00:59
Well, it's certainly the best the priests could hope for.
这当然是神父能指望的最好结果。
01:04
No, the Church promised they'd take the priests out of circulation .
不，教会承诺过会把神父撤出流通。
01:08
And did you follow up on that ?
那你事后跟进核实过吗？
01:15
Do you guys need anything else ?
你们还需要别的吗？
01:17
Yes. Why aren't there any records?
需要。为什么没有任何记录？
01:20
I was down at the courthouse earlier.
我先前去过法院。
01:21
There aren't any records of any of these settlements.
这些和解，一份卷宗都没有。
01:26
We dealt directly with the Church.
我们是直接跟教会谈的。
01:30
We would draw up a demand letter and send it to the chancery.
我们会起草一份索赔函，寄给教区公署。
01:35
You never filed anything in court ?
你们从来没向法院递过任何材料？
01:37
It's a private mediation .
这是私下调解。
01:38
So, this is just you and the archdiocese's lawyers
所以就是你和总教区的律师，
01:44
in a room?
关在一间屋里？
01:46
Correct.
没错。
01:47
Anyone else?
还有别人吗？
01:49
Occasionally, the Church would bring in another defense attorney to help out .
偶尔，教会会再请一位辩护律师来帮忙。
01:52
You have names?
你有名字吗？
01:54
Nope .
没有。
01:56
No, I don't.
没有，我没有。
01:58
So this was all under the table?
所以这些全是私下交易？
Language points
Click a card to jump to its moment in the videoCollocationA2↩ 00:02
be stuck on a call
be stuck on a call
电话还没打完、被一通电话绊住
Thanks for waiting . So sorry, guys. Stuck on a call .
让你们久等了。真抱歉，伙计们。刚才电话没打完。
CollocationA2↩ 00:02
thanks for doing something
thanks for doing something
谢谢你等我
Thanks for waiting . So sorry, guys. Stuck on a call .
让你们久等了。真抱歉，伙计们。刚才电话没打完。
Pronunciation↩ 00:02
Stuck on a
Stuck on a 连成 stu-ko-na。
Thanks for waiting . So sorry, guys. Stuck on a call .
让你们久等了。真抱歉，伙计们。刚才电话没打完。
CollocationA2↩ 00:04
not a problem
not a problem
没问题、不客气
Not a problem . How are you? Good.
没事。你好吗？挺好。
Pronunciation↩ 00:04
Not a problem
Not a 的 t 弹成 d，听成 No-da。
Not a problem . How are you? Good.
没事。你好吗？挺好。
SlangA2↩ 00:06
You bet
当然、没问题——轻松答应，正式场合少用
Thanks for meeting us. You bet . What's up, guys?
谢谢你见我们。那必须的。怎么了，伙计们？
CollocationA2↩ 00:08
be familiar with someone
be familiar with someone
认识、熟悉某人
Mr. Macleish, are you familiar with a priest named Paul Shanley?
麦克利什先生，你认不认识一个叫保罗·山利的神父？
CollocationB1↩ 00:19
can't discuss something with someone
can't discuss something with someone
这件事不能跟你谈
As I'm sure you can understand , I can't discuss that with you .
你们也明白，这个我不能跟你们谈。
GrammarB2↩ 00:19
As I'm sure you can understand
客套插入语：As I'm sure you can understand 先让对方自己认，再拒绝。
As I'm sure you can understand , I can't discuss that with you .
你们也明白，这个我不能跟你们谈。
CollocationA2↩ 00:24
how about someone
how about someone
那……呢（换个人再问）
How about , uh, Father Ronald Paquin?
那罗纳德·帕坎神父呢？
SlangA2↩ 00:28
Come on
得了吧、别逼了——不耐烦劝对方收手
Well, I can't discuss that with you either. Come on , guys.
这个我同样不能谈。得了吧，伙计们。
CollocationB2↩ 00:32
settle a case against someone
settle a case against someone
就某人达成和解
We understand you've settled several cases against each of them.
我们了解到，他们每人你都和解过好几桩。
GrammarB2↩ 00:36
Even if I'd been involved
虚拟让步：Even if + 过去完成，先假设自己参与了，再把后话挡住。
Even if I'd been involved in those cases,
就算我真参与过那些案子，
CollocationC1↩ 00:40
be disbarred for doing something
be disbarred for doing something
因做某事被取消律师资格
and I could be disbarred for acknowledging their existence.
我要是承认它们存在，都可能被取消律师资格。
GrammarB1↩ 00:40
for acknowledging their existence
for加动名词：for + doing 说明被惩罚的原因：连承认存在都不行。
and I could be disbarred for acknowledging their existence.
我要是承认它们存在，都可能被取消律师资格。
CollocationB1↩ 00:55
a sit-down with someone
a sit-down with someone
跟某人坐下来谈一次
这里 sit-down=会面，不是随便坐下
We got 'em a sit-down with the bishop and a little dough ,
我们给他们争取到跟主教见一面，再加一点钱，
Pronunciation↩ 00:55
a little dough
little 的 tt 弹成 d，dough 咬短。
We got 'em a sit-down with the bishop and a little dough ,
我们给他们争取到跟主教见一面，再加一点钱，
SlangB1↩ 00:55
dough
钱、赔偿款——口语把钱说小，正式别用
We got 'em a sit-down with the bishop and a little dough ,
我们给他们争取到跟主教见一面，再加一点钱，
SlangB1↩ 00:55
sit-down
坐下来谈一次——非正式会面，法庭外才说
We got 'em a sit-down with the bishop and a little dough ,
我们给他们争取到跟主教见一面，再加一点钱，
CollocationB2↩ 00:57
the best someone could hope for
the best someone could hope for
他们能指望的最好结果
and that's the best they could hope for .
这已经是他们能指望的最好结果了。
GrammarB1↩ 00:57
the best they could hope for
省略定语从句：the best (that) they could hope for，that 常省掉。
and that's the best they could hope for .
这已经是他们能指望的最好结果了。
CollocationC1↩ 01:04
take someone out of circulation
take someone out of circulation
让某人退出流通、不再上岗
这里=把神父调离一线，不再接触教友
No, the Church promised they'd take the priests out of circulation .
不，教会承诺过会把神父撤出流通。
Pronunciation↩ 01:04
out of circulation
out of 的 t 弹成 d，连成 ou-dov。
No, the Church promised they'd take the priests out of circulation .
不，教会承诺过会把神父撤出流通。
CollocationB1↩ 01:08
follow up on something
follow up on something
事后跟进核实那件事
And did you follow up on that ?
那你事后跟进核实过吗？
Pronunciation↩ 01:08
follow up on
follow up on 三个词粘成 fo-lo-wup-on。
And did you follow up on that ?
那你事后跟进核实过吗？
CollocationA2↩ 01:15
need anything else
need anything else
还需要别的吗
Do you guys need anything else ?
你们还需要别的吗？
CollocationB1↩ 01:26
deal directly with someone
deal directly with someone
直接跟某方打交道
We dealt directly with the Church.
我们是直接跟教会谈的。
CollocationB2↩ 01:30
draw up something
draw up something
起草一份索赔函
We would draw up a demand letter and send it to the chancery.
我们会起草一份索赔函，寄给教区公署。
GrammarB2↩ 01:30
We would draw up a demand letter
过去习惯would：would 这里不是虚拟，是过去反复做的流程。
We would draw up a demand letter and send it to the chancery.
我们会起草一份索赔函，寄给教区公署。
CollocationB2↩ 01:35
file something in court
file something in court
向法院递交立案材料
You never filed anything in court ?
你们从来没向法院递过任何材料？
CollocationB2↩ 01:37
private mediation
private mediation
私下调解（不进公开法庭）
It's a private mediation .
这是私下调解。
Pronunciation↩ 01:37
private mediation
重音在 PRI-vate 和 me-di-A-tion。
It's a private mediation .
这是私下调解。
CollocationB1↩ 01:49
bring in someone
bring in someone
另外请来某人帮忙
Occasionally, the Church would bring in another defense attorney to help out .
偶尔，教会会再请一位辩护律师来帮忙。
CollocationA2↩ 01:49
help out
help out
帮忙、搭把手
Occasionally, the Church would bring in another defense attorney to help out .
偶尔，教会会再请一位辩护律师来帮忙。
SlangA2↩ 01:54
Nope
没有、不行——干脆拒绝，书面用 No
Nope .
没有。
Teaching points
Review right after watchingMy level
above my level
IronyC1↩ 00:59
the best they could hope for
能指望的最好结果
In the scene麦克利什说受害者只能指望这些，记者把「最好」甩回神父。
A gag clause is certainly the best the firm could hope for.封口条款当然是公司能指望的最好结果。
In daily life
拆穿偏袒No press, no files. Best the school could hope for.不报道、不留档。学校能指望的最好结果。
above my level
IdiomC1↩ 01:04
out of circulation
让某人退出流通
In the scene麦克利什说教会承诺把涉事神父撤下，不再接触教友。
After the leak, they took the intern out of circulation.泄密之后，他们把实习生调离一线。
In daily life
换掉代言The brand took the spokesman out of circulation overnight.品牌连夜把代言人撤下。
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SlangB1↩ 00:55
dough
钱（口语）
In the scene麦克利什把赔偿说成一点面团钱，轻描淡写。
They offered a little dough to keep it quiet.他们掏了点钱，想把事按住。
In daily life
谈加班费I need more dough if you want weekend shifts.要我周末上班，就得多给点钱。
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Phrasal verbB1↩ 01:08
follow up on
事后跟进核实
In the scene记者追问：教会承诺撤神父，你后来核过没有。
Did anyone follow up on the safety report?那份安全报告，有人事后跟进了吗？
In daily life
催售后I'll follow up on your ticket tomorrow morning.明天早上我再跟进你的工单。
above my level
VocabularyC1↩ 00:40
disbarred
被取消律师资格
In the scene麦克利什用丢执照吓记者：连承认和解都可能违法。
She was disbarred for hiding evidence from the court.她因向法庭隐瞒证据被取消律师资格。
In daily life
读新闻The attorney was disbarred after lying to a judge.这名律师对法官撒谎后被除名。
above my level
CollocationB2↩ 01:37
private mediation
私下调解
In the scene麦克利什解释为何法院没有卷宗：根本没立案。
They chose private mediation instead of filing a lawsuit.他们选择私下调解，而不是起诉。
In daily life
邻里纠纷The landlord wants private mediation, not a hearing.房东想私下调解，不想开听证会。
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Phrasal verbB1↩ 01:30
draw up
起草一份文件
In the scene麦克利什说他们只写索赔函寄给教区，不进法院。
We'll draw up a demand letter before we sue.起诉前我们会先起草索赔函。
In daily life
签租约The agent will draw up the lease this afternoon.中介今天下午会把租约起草好。
above my level
DiscourseB2↩ 00:19
i can't discuss that
这个我不能跟你谈
In the scene记者点名山利神父，麦克利什用职业保密整句挡回去。
As I'm sure you can understand, personnel files stay closed.你也明白，人事档案不能公开。
In daily life
挡媒体As you can imagine, I can't discuss an active case.你可以想象，进行中的案子我不能谈。
Golden lines
A great line in its own right — why and how to use it“It's a private mediation.”
这是私下调解。
Why it's great
五个词把整场追问钉死：没有法庭，就没有卷宗。
Pattern
It's a private + 名词。
When to use
要把公开程序说成内部私下解决时。
Similar
It's off the record. ／ This never went to court.
Register
formal
Shadowing tip
private 加重，mediation 放慢落下。
Use it yourself
解释无记录It's a private settlement. You won't find a docket.这是私下和解。你翻不到立案号。
“No, the Church promised they'd take the priests out of circulation.”
不，教会承诺过会把神父撤出流通。
Why it's great
out of circulation 像下架货币，把人说成可回收的货。
Pattern
take someone out of circulation
When to use
说把某人调离岗位、不再露面时。
Similar
They promised to pull them off the job. ／ He was taken out of service.
Register
informal
Shadowing tip
promised 稍停，out of circulation 咬清。
Use it yourself
调离同事HR promised to take him out of circulation after the complaint.投诉之后，人事承诺把他调离一线。
“Well, it's certainly the best the priests could hope for.”
这当然是神父能指望的最好结果。
Why it's great
把「最好」甩回神父，礼貌词里全是刺。
Pattern
It's certainly the best X could hope for.
When to use
揭对方方案其实最保护加害方时。
Similar
That's convenient for them. ／ Funny how that works out for the accused.
Register
informal
Shadowing tip
certainly 拉长，priests 加重再冷下来。
Use it yourself
拆穿偏袒A gag order is certainly the best the company could hope for.封口令当然是公司能指望的最好结果。
Monologue
One character carrying the scene — shadow the whole passage❝ 麦克利什的和解说辞
Look, I told you guys, these are tough cases. Most of these folks, they just want some acknowledgment of what happened. We got 'em a sit-down with the bishop and a little dough, and that's the best they could hope for.
听着，我跟你们说过，这些案子很难打。 这些人里大多数，只想要一点承认， 承认那件事发生过。 我们给他们争取到跟主教见一面，再加一点钱， 这已经是他们能指望的最好结果了。
从难办到一点钱，把制度失败说成尽力了。