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Knocked Up · 2007 — Chapter 5 of 16 · 2'33" · B2

Not a Ruined Woman, Explained: ruined woman

What starts as talk about sex and a pregnancy turns into an argument over whose problem it is. "And just because I'm pregnant, I'm not some ruined woman and all romance goes out the door" is the line that refuses the label, and what follows asks for a real try instead of a joke.

What happens

The talk moves from whether to have sex into a pregnancy that someone tries to treat lightly. The reply is blunt: it is not one person's situation, and being pregnant does not make anyone a ruined woman. They land on getting to know each other, not rushing, with seven months before the baby comes, and on a plea not to be left alone with it.

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Phrase of the scene

ruined woman

a woman treated as socially ruined

Ruined woman is an old label for someone treated as spoiled by unpermitted sex or pregnancy. This line throws the label away. It does not mean worn out.

People called her a ruined woman after the scandal, and they were wrong.

Also in this scene

  • go out the door

    disappear completely

  • for the sake of

    for a particular purpose or benefit

  • get a little fun out of

    get a little fun from something

  • our situation

    a problem that belongs to both

  • give this a real shot

    try for real, not as a joke

Everything marked in this scene

34 notes across 48 lines

Phrase · A2have sex

have sex

So what do you think? Should we have sex tonight?
Slang · A2Shut up

cut it out; stop talking — Fine between people who already tease; not for guests or bosses.

Shut up.
Phrase · B1happen to someone

something befalls someone

I think they'll be fine. Look at us. It happened to us.
Phrase · B1raise the baby

bring the child up

We'll help her raise the baby.
Slang · B1Fuck

a sudden swear — Blurted when something hurts or snaps; keep it private.

Fuck!
Sounddon't have to

Keep have light and put the weight on the later word.

At least we don't have to use a condom, you know?
Phrase · B1just in case

ready if it becomes necessary

But we can. I don't... I brought some just in case. I don't...
Slang · B2VD

dated slang for an STI — Dated bedroom slang; in a clinic say STI or STD.

I don't have VD or anything. I mean, I don't, I thought...
Phrase · B2get a little fun out of something

get a little fun from something

The line hopes to get a little fun out of your situation. It stays at I thought maybe, still a try, not a plan already set.

I thought maybe we could get a little fun out of your situation, you know?
Sounda little fun

Let the t in little flick by without stopping the mouth.

I thought maybe we could get a little fun out of your situation, you know?
Phrase · B1first of all

here is the first point

Okay, first of all, it's not my situation. It's our situation.
Phrase · B2not my situation

don't make it only mine

Okay, first of all, it's not my situation. It's our situation.
Phrase · B1just because

only because

And just because I'm pregnant, I'm not some ruined woman and all romance goes out the door.
Phrase · C1ruined woman

a woman treated as socially ruined

Ruined woman is an old label for someone treated as spoiled by unpermitted sex or pregnancy. This line throws the label away. It does not mean worn out.

And just because I'm pregnant, I'm not some ruined woman and all romance goes out the door.
Phrase · B2go out the door

disappear completely

Here go out the door is not about someone leaving a room. The line says all romance goes out the door: pregnancy does not mean a person is ruined or that romance is gone.

And just because I'm pregnant, I'm not some ruined woman and all romance goes out the door.
Grammar · B2just because I'm pregnant

rejected reason: Just because marks the reason she rejects, not her real point.

And just because I'm pregnant, I'm not some ruined woman and all romance goes out the door.
Soundnot some ruined

Stress not and ruined, and let pregnant stay light.

And just because I'm pregnant, I'm not some ruined woman and all romance goes out the door.
Phrase · B1so far

up to now

A little, so far.
Phrase · B1get to know someone

become familiar with each other

We should really just try to get to know each other and give this a real shot.
Phrase · B2give something a real shot

a serious try not a gunshot; a serious try

We should really just try to get to know each other and give this a real shot.
Phrase · B2get oneself into something

land oneself in a fix

You know, we got ourselves into this situation. We kind of have to.
Phrase · A2second date

the second date

Okay, if this was our second date, what would you do?
Grammar · B2if this was our second date

hypothetical if: If shifts the question onto an imagined second date, not tonight.

Okay, if this was our second date, what would you do?
Soundwas gonna get

Don't pause inside gonna; keep that stretch in one piece.

I told my roommates I thought I was gonna get a B.J., so...
Slang · A2gonna

spoken form of going to — Fine in talk; write going to in anything formal.

I told my roommates I thought I was gonna get a B.J., so...
Slang · C1B.J.

slang for oral sex — Only in very close, crude talk; never in public or formal settings.

I told my roommates I thought I was gonna get a B.J., so...
Phrase · B2for the sake of something

for a particular purpose or benefit

For the sake of getting to know one another sets the purpose before the request: can you not talk like that?

For the sake of getting to know one another, can you not talk like that?
Phrase · B1can you not do something

please don't do that

For the sake of getting to know one another, can you not talk like that?
Phrase · B1talk like that

speak in that way here, the oral-sex joke

For the sake of getting to know one another, can you not talk like that?
Soundcan you not

Glue can you together and land clearly on not.

For the sake of getting to know one another, can you not talk like that?
Slang · B2fuck me over

betray or screw me over — A raw plea to someone close; unusable at work.

Don't fuck me over, okay?
Phrase · B2just so you know

a heads-up before the point

Just so you know, I'm the guy girls fuck over.
Grammar · B2the guy girls fuck over

contact clause: With whom left out, girls fuck over still defines which guy.

Just so you know, I'm the guy girls fuck over.
Phrase · B1can't take something

be unable to bear it

I couldn't take it. I can't raise this baby alone.

Not a Ruined Woman, explained

What's really going on

Someone tries to get a little fun out of the pregnancy. The answer will not let that stand. "Okay, first of all, it's not my situation. It's our situation" moves the weight onto both people. Another line refuses a worse label: "And just because I'm pregnant, I'm not some ruined woman and all romance goes out the door." Romance is not cancelled, and the pregnant person is not written off. "A little, so far" keeps the liking cautious. Seven months remain, and they do not have to rush. "We should really just try to get to know each other and give this a real shot" is the modest version of that refusal. Only then does a second date question produce a crude plan, a plea to stop talking like that, and two nervous replies. The last note is fear of being left alone: "I couldn't take it. I can't raise this baby alone."

Theme

RomancePregnancy is treated as a reason romance would vanish, and the reply insists it does not have to.
ParenthoodThey have seven months, talk about not rushing, and someone says they cannot raise the baby alone.

Listen for

  • don't have to — Keep have light and put the weight on the later word.
  • a little fun — Let the t in little flick by without stopping the mouth.
  • not some ruined — Stress not and ruined, and let pregnant stay light.
  • was gonna get — Don't pause inside gonna; keep that stretch in one piece.
And just because I'm pregnant, I'm not some ruined woman and all romance goes out the door.

Being pregnant is not a verdict that the speaker is damaged and that romance is finished.

Okay, first of all, it's not my situation. It's our situation.

A correction: the pregnancy does not belong to only one of them.

We should really just try to get to know each other and give this a real shot.

With months still left, they propose learning who the other is and trying the relationship for real.

For the sake of getting to know one another, can you not talk like that?

A request to drop the crude talk so the two of them can actually get to know each other.

I couldn't take it. I can't raise this baby alone.

The speaker cannot stand the idea of raising the baby without the other person.

Just so you know, I'm the guy girls fuck over.

The speaker says he is the one women usually hurt, and that he is not the one who does the hurting.

Questions about this scene

Why is "your situation" corrected?

The next claim is "It's not my situation. It's our situation." Right after that, someone answers "I know, of course, I know that." The pregnancy is being treated as shared, not as one person's problem.

What is the ruined-woman line refusing?

It refuses the idea that pregnancy cancels romance. The speaker says that just because they are pregnant, they are not a ruined woman and romance does not go out the door. "I'm sorry" follows.

Do they agree to rush into being a couple?

No. Liking is only "A little, so far." The baby is seven months away, they say "We don't have to rush it," and the plan is to get to know each other and "give this a real shot," for the baby.

What are they afraid of at the end?

Two fears sit next to each other. "I couldn't take it. I can't raise this baby alone." And, just before that, "I'm the guy girls fuck over," followed by "So you don't fuck me over." The lines state both fears. They do not say one person holds both.

Knocked Up · 16 chapters

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