Creed · 2015 — Chapter 1 of 10 · 6'28" · B2

Adonis Asks Rocky to Train Him, Explained: behind closed doors

Adonis tracks Rocky down to ask for training, but the old fighter wants no part of the ring. "Maybe he wanted to go out like a fighter," Rocky says of Adonis's father — a line about how men choose to end things, aimed just as much at himself.

What happens

Adonis Johnson finds Rocky Balboa and asks the former champ to train him. Rocky, long retired and running his restaurant, is not interested. Over a quiet, closed-door conversation, the two men talk about Apollo Creed, about fighting, and about what it costs to walk away.

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Phrase of the scene

behind closed doors

in private, with the public kept out

洛奇回忆自己和阿波罗那场不对外公开的第三战,整场都在私下进行。

The deal was settled behind closed doors before the hearing.

Also in this scene

  • take someone in

    to give someone a home or shelter

  • talk someone out of

    to persuade someone not to do something

  • face to face

    in person, directly with someone

Everything marked in this scene

25 notes across 101 lines

Phrase · A2quit one's jobI quit my job.
Phrase · A2not that + adjective
Phrase · B1knock someone outI ought to knock you out myself.
Grammar · B2so brain damaged you can t form a sentence

so ... (that) result clause

You want to be so brain damaged you can't form a sentence?
Phrase · A2get hurt doing somethingI can get hurt doing anything.
Phrase · B1take someone in

to give someone a home or shelter

I didn't take you in for you to go backwards.
Grammar · B2for you to go backwards

for + object + to-infinitive

I didn't take you in for you to go backwards.
Phrase · B1face to face

in person, directly with someone

Adonis came in person to tell Rocky about his decision to fight full time.

So I wanted to tell you face to face.
Soundface to face

weak form

So I wanted to tell you face to face.
Phrase · B2be one's father's sonYou are your father's son.
Grammar · B2doesn t mean you have to be him

negated reporting clause

But it doesn't mean you have to be him.
SoundHow you doing

liaison

Phrase · B1good callGood call.
Phrase · B2behind closed doors

in private, with the public kept out

Behind closed doors.
Slang · B2I don t do that stuff no moreI don't do that stuff no more. Sorry about that.
Phrase · B1getting kind of lateListen, it's getting kind of late, kid.
Slang · B2Ain t nobody ever betterHe's a perfect fighter. Ain't nobody ever better.
Soundtakes everybody out

liaison

Time, you know, takes everybody out. It's undefeated.
Phrase · B1lock upAnyway, I gotta lock up.
Phrase · B2talk someone out of doing something

to persuade someone not to do something

Adonis learns that Mickey once persuaded Rocky not to quit the fight game.

Talked you out of quitting.
Slang · B2I ain t got a choiceI been fighting my whole life. I ain't got a choice.
Grammar · B2should ve been stopped

should have been + past participle

That fight should've been stopped.
Phrase · B2go out like a ...Maybe he wanted to go out like a fighter.
Phrase · B1in the neighborhoodSo if you're ever in the neighborhood, come by.
Phrase · B1pretty much like somethingSince we're pretty much like family.

Adonis Asks Rocky to Train Him, explained

What's really going on

On the surface, this is a young man asking an old trainer for a favour. Underneath, it is a conversation about inheritance and about how a man chooses to end things. Rocky knew Apollo Creed and still carries that loss, and "Time, you know, takes everybody out. It's undefeated." is his way of saying nobody beats the end, not even the men he admired. He warns Adonis against chasing his father's fate, but Adonis answers with pure stubbornness: "I been fighting my whole life. I ain't got a choice." That refusal to quit is what finally reaches Rocky, and it is the point where the two men begin to see themselves in each other. A favour turns into a partnership built on shared loss and shared stubbornness.

Theme

IdentityAdonis must decide whether to inherit his father's name or build a life of his own.
CourageA retired fighter weighs stepping back into a world that already took everything from him.

What you'll learn

  • 'behind closed doors' carries more than its dictionary gloss.
  • 'close up' changes the pressure of the reply.
  • The surrounding lines set the social temperature.

Listen for

  • face to face — weak form
  • How you doing — liaison
  • takes everybody out — liaison
Maybe he wanted to go out like a fighter

A guess about how Adonis's father chose to face his end — on his feet rather than fading away. Said almost with admiration.

Time you know takes everybody out it s undefeated

Rocky's favourite idea: time beats every fighter in the end, so nobody really leaves the ring a winner.

I been fighting my whole life I ain t got a choice

Adonis says fighting is not a hobby but the only thing he has ever known, the one place he feels at home.

But it doesn t mean you have to be him

Rocky's reassurance: Adonis can honour his father without repeating his father's life.

Questions about this scene

Why does Adonis come looking for Rocky?

He wants the man who fought alongside and trained his father to teach him. Rocky is his last link to Apollo Creed and to the life he is chasing.

Why is Rocky reluctant to get back in the corner?

He has stepped away from boxing and does not want to be dragged back into it. Training Apollo's son would pull him into a world he thought he had left behind.

What is Rocky trying to tell Adonis about his father?

That carrying the Creed name does not mean he has to live or die the way his father did. It is both a warning and a kind of permission.

What does Rocky mean by "it s undefeated"?

He calls time the one opponent nobody beats. Fighters win and lose, but age takes them all, so leaving the ring on your own terms matters.

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