SLC Punk · 1998 — 第 8 / 10 章 · 2'08" · B2

Punks Debate Structure and Chaos, Explained:getting old

A Salt Lake punk party moves from a hookah that will not work to a question about her medication. Then the custom starts: "He believed in structure, I believed in chaos." The fight is ongoing. Later the cycle of party, fight, and another day is what was getting old; only the next line says the speaker was feeling old.

あらすじ

At a Salt Lake punk party, someone fails to get stoned. Another asks why Jennifer was told to get off her medication. Another voice says who she is is evaporating. Talk turns to pain, then to anarchy. One side believes in structure, the other in chaos. One voice calls that party-fight-day cycle old, and only then says he was feeling old. The debate ends on order, disorder, and anarchy.

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注目の表現

get stonedget offevaporatinggo through

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  1. ❝ 独白A tired party cycle8 行練習ページ ↗
セリフをタップするとそこから再生

このシーンの表現

getting old

worn out, with a pun on age

After the party-fight cycle is named, getting old means the routine is stale, and the next line makes old literal.

That excuse is getting old after the third time.

このシーンの他の表現

  • get stoned

    to get high from drugs

  • get off

    to stop taking medicine

  • evaporating

    fading until it is gone

  • go through

    to live through all of it

  • speak of

    to turn the talk to a topic

このシーンのメモ一覧

32 行のセリフに 26 件のメモ

表現 · B1someone's heart is heavy

a mood that stays weighed down not body weight, a mood that stays heavy

My heart has been so heavy, Stevo.
表現 · B2mighty + adjective

awfully nice, in a folksy way mighty just means very

That's a mighty nice hookah.
発音I've been

Leave been short and light next to trying.

I've been trying to get stoned, but it won't happen.
発音but it

Don't stop but; slide its ending into it.

I've been trying to get stoned, but it won't happen.
スラング · B2get stoned

to get high — Fine among friends joking; skip it in formal talk.

I've been trying to get stoned, but it won't happen.
表現 · B1since someone was born

exaggerated as lasting a whole life

I've been smoking since I was born.
表現 · B2get off something

make her stop the medicine not stepping off a bus, stopping the pills

Why'd you tell Jennifer to get off her medication?
発音Why'd you

Let why sit on you once did drops out.

Why'd you tell Jennifer to get off her medication?
文法 · C1who she is

subject clause: Who she is is the subject that evaporates, so this is not a question.

- But who she is... - Is evaporating.
表現 · B2know who someone is

no steady sense of self not failing to recognize a face

I don't think she knows who she is.
文法 · B2don't think

transferred negation: Not sits on think, but it rejects the idea that she knows herself.

I don't think she knows who she is.
表現 · A2talk about something

shift the talk onto pain

I think we're starting to talk about pain here, Stevo.
表現 · B1go through something

endure the pain all the way not walking through, living the pain out

A human being must go through pain.
発音doesn't exist

Weight doesn't, then let exist drop away.

He doesn't exist!
表現 · B1get a picture of something

take a photo of it for the record

I need to get a picture of it. Hi, Stevo.
表現 · B2speak of something

announce anarchy as the next topic

- Let's speak of anarchy. - Yeah.
表現 · B2believe in something

put faith in order and form not a building, the wish for order

He believed in structure, I believed in chaos.
表現 · B2an ongoing fight

a conflict that will not end

Right after structure and chaos are opposed, ongoing fight names an unfinished argument that only looked decided.

This was an ongoing fight. He seemed to be winning.
スラング · B2punks

people in the punk scene — An in-group label; skip it in a formal introduction.

Parties are like this in Salt Lake for us punks.
文法 · B2There would be

habitual would: Would here means this kept happening, not that it will happen later.

The days would pass. There would be a party, then a fight, then another day.
表現 · B2get old

worn out, with a pun on age

After the party-fight cycle is named, getting old means the routine is stale, and the next line makes old literal.

This was the cycle. It was getting old, though.
表現 · B2the school of something

what that camp of science claims not a campus, one scientific camp

The school of science says the world moves from order to disorder... chaos.
表現 · B2from order to disorder

a one-way slide into mess

The school of science says the world moves from order to disorder... chaos.
発音order to disorder

Stress order and disorder, then set chaos apart.

The school of science says the world moves from order to disorder... chaos.
表現 · B2from something to something to something

mess that returns to order

You know, life goes from order to disorder to order.
表現 · B2come together randomly

meet and join by chance

Atoms come together randomly to form a structure.

「Punks Debate Structure and Chaos」を読み解く

What's really going on

The room never stays on one subject. A compliment about the hookah dies in the next breath: getting stoned "won't happen." Talk of a gown is answered by "who she is... is evaporating," so the person, not the dress, is what comes apart. Pain is named, then called something a human being must go through, before Jones and a Satanic bible pull the room away. Anarchy is introduced as their custom. "He believed in structure, I believed in chaos" sets up an ongoing fight one side seems to be winning. The later lines are exact. Party, then a fight, then another day: "This was the cycle. It was getting old." The next line, "I was feeling old," puts the tiredness on the person. Those are separate claims. The science school then sends the world "from order to disorder... chaos," and the reply sends life back to order before a child grows, dies, decomposes, and is called "back into chaos." The last word is "Anarchy."

Theme

PhilosophyThe party debate sets structure against chaos, then runs the world from order to disorder and back.
Coming of ageThe cycle of party, fight, and another day is called old, and the next line says the speaker feels old.

発音のポイント

  • I've been — Leave been short and light next to trying.
  • but it — Don't stop but; slide its ending into it.
  • Why'd you — Let why sit on you once did drops out.
  • doesn't exist — Weight doesn't, then let exist drop away.
I've been smoking since I was born.

It follows the failed attempt to get stoned, exaggerating the habit back to birth.

A human being must go through pain.

Once the talk has turned to pain, the line says a person must pass through it. The pain sits in the word pain, not in go through.

He believed in structure, I believed in chaos.

In their custom debate, one position is structure and the other is chaos. The next line calls it an ongoing fight that structure seems to be winning.

The days would pass. There would be a party, then a fight, then another day.

This is the loop the next lines judge: a party, then a fight, then another day. It was getting old refers to this cycle, not yet to the speaker.

The school of science says the world moves from order to disorder... chaos.

After the weird night is named, this line states the science-school view: the world moves from order to disorder and the sentence ends on chaos. The next line answers with a return to order.

このシーンについての質問

Why is the cycle called old while the next line says the speaker feels old?

The lines list the loop first: a party, then a fight, then another day. "This was the cycle. It was getting old, though." Only the next line, "I was feeling old," moves that onto the speaker. The scene says both, in that order.

What does "but it won't happen" shut down?

The same line starts with "I've been trying to get stoned." "It won't happen" shuts down that high. The next line, "I've been smoking since I was born," stays on the smoking and does not change what was negated.

Who seems to be winning the structure and chaos debate?

Right after "He believed in structure, I believed in chaos," the next line says "This was an ongoing fight. He seemed to be winning." The "he" is the one who believed in structure. The line does not say the fight is over.

What is said to be evaporating?

Not smoke. The split line is "But who she is... / Is evaporating." The gown line just before asks if she is beautiful. The next line adds "I don't think she knows who she is."

Do the two sides leave the world in chaos or send it back to order?

The science-school line moves the world "from order to disorder... chaos." The reply says life goes "from order to disorder to order," then follows a life that grows, dies, decomposes, and is called "back into chaos." The last word they give it is "Anarchy."

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