with nobody else anywhere
He is alone in the universe.SLC Punk · 1998 — 第 7 / 10 章 · 2'06" · C1
An Essay on Fighting, Explained：stand for
A voice turns fighting into an essay. On the surface it asks what a fight means and why a man alone in the universe hits someone else. Underneath, "Final analysis. To fight: A reason to live" collides with the claim that reasoned fighting builds the government an anarchist says he rejects.
あらすじ
Someone delivers an essay on fighting. A punk, still a man, is alone and connects by hitting others. Pain becomes proof of life. The verdict is that to fight is a reason to live. He then calls himself an anarchist who wants no rules, only chaos, and admits that a fight with a reason creates a system, which is government, not anarchy. He framed it and still does not understand.
注目の表現
No clearer wayrednecksstand forThe circle goes like this
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このシーンの表現
stand for
to publicly support a position
The voice turns the fight into a public allegiance, solemn rather than angry.
Our team will stand for shorter meetings, not for more slogans.
このシーンの他の表現
- No clearer way
no more obvious method
- rednecks
rural conservatives used as an insult
- The circle goes like this
here is how the loop runs
- still a rule
it counts as a rule anyway
- framed it
shaped it into an explanation
このシーンのメモ一覧
43 行のセリフに 26 件のメモ
a person in the punk scene — An in-group name; leave it out of formal writing.
A punker. Still a man.strike one another
They hit each other. Ooh!object clause: The whether-clause is the thing being evaluated: alive or not.
No clearer way to evaluate whether or not you're alive.actually hurt
Now, to fight is a reason to feel pain. Life is pain.Keep to light as it moves into fight, and check the take before you lock it in.
So to fight, with reason...elliptical clause: The that-clause states the belief, and only chaos skips a repeated there should be.
I believe that there should be no rules, only chaos.crash into the mosh pit pit here is the mosh pit, not a hole in the ground
Fighting appears to be chaos, and when we slam in a pit at a show, it is.fight because of a stated cause
But when we fight for a reason, like rednecks, there is a system.set up who holds power
Fighting is to establish power, power is government...See whether not slides into anarchy when you shadow, then confirm on a listen.
and government is not anarchy.Try the weight on war and let fighting follow, once you have heard it.
Government is war, and war is fighting.a lesser, scaled-down copy of something cheaper means a lesser copy, not a lower price
are cheaper versions of conventional warfare.ordinary organized war
are cheaper versions of conventional warfare.make rules stick by force
because wars are fought to enforce rules or ideals, even freedom.passive purpose: The passive hides who fights, and to enforce names the purpose.
because wars are fought to enforce rules or ideals, even freedom.impose an idea on another person
But other people's ideals forced on someone else...concession clause: Even if grants the flattering case, and the main clause still calls it a rule.
even if it is something like freedom, is still a rule.enjoy fighting for its own sake
Even as early as my first party, why did I love to fight?clashes with what one believes
It goes against my beliefs as a true anarchist, but there it was.mod-scene youth — A scene label; strangers should not toss it around.
Rednecks kicked the shit out of punks, punks kicked the shit out of mods...defeat and remove someone here it means defeat, not remove an object
mods kicked the shit out of skinheads, skinheads took out the metal guys...the skinhead crowd — A subculture name, not a joke nickname.
mods kicked the shit out of skinheads, skinheads took out the metal guys...new-wave fans — Fan-scene shorthand; skip it in formal settings.
and the new wavers did nothing... they were the new hippies.the closing sum-up
What was the point? Final summation?Treat was as a weak word rather than a flap, and decide after you listen.
What was the point? Final summation?「An Essay on Fighting」を読み解く
What's really going on
The monologue pretends to be a proof and then eats itself. A man alone in the universe has one connection: "They hit each other." Pain is not a side effect. "Life is pain," so a fight with a reason becomes life with a reason, and the verdict follows: to fight is a reason to live. The second half will not let that stand. The speaker calls himself an anarchist who believes "there should be no rules, only chaos." A pit at a show can stay chaos. A fight against someone different, taken on for a cause, has a system. Fighting for chaos is still a structure; structure establishes power; power is government; government is war; war is fighting. Even freedom, once forced on someone else, "is still a rule." In the fall of '85 the contradiction was becoming clear. He framed it and still does not understand it. "It goes against my beliefs as a true anarchist, but there it was." Asked for the point, the essay answers "None."
Theme
PhilosophyA spoken essay proves that to fight is to live, then unravels the proof into rules, government, and a final point of none.
PowerFighting for a cause is called a structure that establishes power, and that power is named government rather than anarchy.
発音のポイント
- to fight — Keep to light as it moves into fight, and check the take before you lock it in.
- not anarchy — See whether not slides into anarchy when you shadow, then confirm on a listen.
- war is fighting — Try the weight on war and let fighting follow, once you have heard it.
- What was the — Treat was as a weak word rather than a flap, and decide after you listen.
No clearer way to evaluate whether or not you're alive.Hitting someone is presented as the plainest test of being alive: if you can trade blows, you are not just drifting alone in the universe.
Now, to fight is a reason to feel pain. Life is pain.The essay equates a fight with pain and pain with life, so choosing to fight is choosing to feel the thing that proves you exist.
Final analysis. To fight: A reason to live.After the chain of pain and reason, the spoken paper lands on its thesis: fighting is not a distraction from life but a reason for it.
I believe that there should be no rules, only chaos.The speaker states an anarchist creed in one breath: no rules, nothing but chaos. Everything after this line has to survive that claim.
We fight for what we stand for... chaos. But fighting is a structure.They tell themselves the fights defend chaos, the thing they stand for, yet the act of fighting already behaves like a structure.
It goes against my beliefs as a true anarchist, but there it was.Loving the fight breaks the anarchist rule just built, and naming the break does not make the urge go away.
このシーンについての質問
Why does the speaker treat fighting as a reason to live?
A man alone in the universe connects when people hit each other. The voice says there is "No clearer way to evaluate whether or not you're alive," then ties a fight to pain and pain to life: to fight with reason is to be alive with reason. The verdict is "To fight: A reason to live."
Why can't fighting sit with his anarchism?
He says he believes there should be no rules, only chaos. Slamming in a pit at a show can be chaos, but a fight for a reason has a system. Fighting establishes power, power is government, and government is not anarchy. Forcing an ideal on someone, even freedom, is still a rule.
What is the circle he describes?
"The circle goes like this": the skirmishes are cheaper versions of conventional warfare. War means extreme government, because wars enforce rules or ideals, even freedom. That return to a rule is what he has already called not anarchy.
Why does the essay end on "None"?
He lists groups taking turns beating the next, from rednecks and punks through mods, skinheads, and metal guys, down to new wavers who did nothing and were the new hippies. He asks what the point is, calls it a final summation, and answers, "None."
Does he claim to understand why he loves to fight?
No. He says the contradiction was becoming clear in the fall of '85, even as early as his first party. He framed it and still does not understand it. It goes against his beliefs as a true anarchist, but there it was.
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