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The Intern · 2015 — Chapter 18 of 18 · 3'06" · B2

Ben Talks Jules Out of Giving Up, Explained: add up

Jules arrives at Ben's apartment ready to give up the company she built. The talk sounds like a pep talk, but the real question is whether she's trading her life's work for a marriage she can't fix: "I don't see how that adds up."

What happens

Jules shows up early at Ben's apartment, where Fiona has been staying. After Fiona leaves, Jules says she has not called Townsend yet and still thinks giving up the company is the right thing. Ben recalls the warehouse visit and argues that no one else will ever care about ATF the way she does.

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put someone upWho knewI hope that's okaysleep on it

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  35. ❝ MonologueBen's persuasion speech6 linesPractice page ↗
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Phrase of the scene

add up

make sense when considered

The reply says the plan does not make sense when weighed against the cost.

His story sounds fine, but the timing doesn't add up.

Also in this scene

  • put someone up

    let someone stay temporarily

  • Who knew

    I didn't expect that

  • I hope that's okay

    I hope this is all right

  • sleep on it

    wait overnight before deciding

  • in the hopes that

    hoping that something will happen

Everything marked in this scene

25 notes across 55 lines

Phrase · B1put someone up

let someone stay temporarily

Someone explains that Ben is letting them stay until they find a place.

Yeah, Ben's been putting me up until I can find a place.
Phrase · A2on one's way to work

heading to work

I'm just on my way to work.
Phrase · B1Who knew?

I didn't expect that

The line treats a surprising pairing as a light joke, not a real question.

You and Fiona, huh? Who knew.
Slang · B1gal

woman; girl — Friendly and old-fashioned; avoid it in formal writing.

She's a great gal.
Phrase · A2bring something over

bring something to someone's home

She surprised me last night. She brought over dinner.
Phrase · A2brand-new

completely new

It's brand-New.
Phrase · B1come by

stop by for a visit

So, I was ready kind of early this morning, since about 4:00, And Matt and Paige left an hour ago for a field trip So I thought I'd come by. I hope that's okay.
Phrase · B1sleep on it

wait overnight before deciding

The speaker says the decision survived a night, so it is not a sudden impulse.

I slept on it.
Phrase · B1the right thing to do

the morally correct action

I still feel like it's the right thing to do.
Phrase · A2drive someone to a place

take someone somewhere by car

You remember the day I drove you to the warehouse?
Phrase · B1give someone directions

tell someone the wrong way

You were giving me the wrong directions and all that?
Phrase · B1show someone how to do something

teach someone how to do something

Okay, well, I stood in the back, And I watched you show the workers How to fold and box the clothes.
Phrase · B2commitment to something

dedication to a company

No one else is ever gonna have That kind of commitment to your company, Jules.
Soundgonna have

In fast speech, gonna blends into one quick unit before have.

No one else is ever gonna have That kind of commitment to your company, Jules.
Soundkind of commitment

Keep kind of light and put the weight on commitment.

No one else is ever gonna have That kind of commitment to your company, Jules.
Slang · A2gonna

going to — Casual speech only; write 'going to' in formal text.

No one else is ever gonna have That kind of commitment to your company, Jules.
Phrase · B2if you don't mind me saying

if I may say so

About the fit needs you, and if you don't mind me saying, You need it.
Phrase · B2in the hopes that

hoping that something will happen

The phrase exposes the uncertain hope behind a huge sacrifice.

And you're gonna give that up In the hopes that your husband will stop having an affair?
Phrase · B2have an affair

be involved in an extramarital relationship

And you're gonna give that up In the hopes that your husband will stop having an affair?
Grammar · B2the hopes that your husband will stop having an affair

appositive clause: The that-clause spells out what the hope is, not a condition.

And you're gonna give that up In the hopes that your husband will stop having an affair?
Phrase · B2feel nothing but ... about

feel only good about

You should feel nothing but great about what you've done.
Grammar · B2see you let anyone take

perception verb pattern: The pattern see someone do something carries the idea of watching the whole act happen.

And I'd hate to see you let anyone take that away from you.
Phrase · B2get all sentimental

become overly emotional

The speaker brushes off sentiment, then makes an even more intimate joke about being buried together.

But there's no need to get all sentimental about it Even though we could potentially be buried together.
Grammar · B2Even though we could potentially be buried together

concessive clause: The concessive clause lets him deny sentiment while making a more intimate joke.

But there's no need to get all sentimental about it Even though we could potentially be buried together.
Soundget all sentimental

Stress sentimental and keep get all light to catch the teasing tone.

But there's no need to get all sentimental about it Even though we could potentially be buried together.

Ben Talks Jules Out of Giving Up, explained

What's really going on

The scene isn't really about whether Jules should sell. It's about whether she can see her own worth without a man's approval. She says she slept on it and still feels it's right, but the way she explains her early arrival—4 a.m., the kids gone, nothing else to do—suggests she came for reassurance. The argument avoids business logic and appeals to memory and pride: "You should feel nothing but great about what you've done." That line reframes the company as her creation rather than a burden. The closing joke about being buried together keeps the intimacy from turning sentimental.

Theme

AmbitionJules is ready to give up the company she built, while Ben insists her ambition is worth defending.
IdentityThe talk asks Jules to see herself as the creator of ATF, not just a wife trying to save a marriage.

Listen for

  • gonna have — In fast speech, gonna blends into one quick unit before have.
  • kind of commitment — Keep kind of light and put the weight on commitment.
  • get all sentimental — Stress sentimental and keep get all light to catch the teasing tone.
No one else is ever gonna have That kind of commitment to your company, Jules.

No one will care about ATF the way Jules does; her personal investment is something a replacement can't replicate.

And you're gonna give that up In the hopes that your husband will stop having an affair?

The question frames her plan as a bad trade: sacrificing her company for a change in her husband's behavior she cannot control.

You should feel nothing but great about what you've done.

A direct attempt to replace shame with pride: her achievement, not her marriage, should define how she sees herself.

And I'd hate to see you let anyone take that away from you.

The speaker warns against letting anyone take away the pride she has earned from building the company.

I don't see how that adds up.

The numbers don't work: giving up something she built to hope her husband changes makes no logical sense.

Questions about this scene

Why does Jules want to give up the company?

The scene ties the decision to her marriage: one line asks if she is giving everything up "in the hopes that your husband will stop having an affair." She also says she still feels it is the right thing to do.

What does Ben remember about the warehouse visit?

He remembers the day he drove her to the warehouse, with her giving him the wrong directions, and then standing in the back while she showed the workers how to fold and box the clothes. That memory is why he says no one else will have her commitment.

What does "I don't see how that adds up" mean?

It means the plan does not make sense to the speaker: giving up the company in the hopes that her husband stops having an affair is a bad trade.

Why does Jules come over so early?

She says she was ready since about 4:00 and that Matt and Paige left an hour earlier for a field trip, so she thought she would come by. She adds, "I hope that's okay."

Has Jules already called Townsend?

No. She says, "I haven't called Townsend yet," but adds that she still feels giving up the company is the right thing to do.

The Intern · 18 chapters

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Chapter 1gave me the drillBen Meets His New BossChapter 2make the trains run on timeJules Is Told to Consider a CEOChapter 3goes without sayingBen Confronts the Drinking DriverChapter 4me timeTwo Parents Keep Dozing OffChapter 5slammedBen Arrives at Jules's HouseChapter 6stay-at-home dadJules Gets the Guacamole AssignmentChapter 7force of habitBen's Old Factory RevealChapter 8brownnoseIntern Sets Up Facebook ProfileChapter 9jumped the gunBen Gets His Job BackChapter 10I happen to thinkBecky Breaks Down at WorkChapter 11little does ... knowJules's Team Plans a Break-InChapter 12no such thing asFake Alarm at Jules's Mom's HouseChapter 13above and beyondCoworkers Toast After a HeistChapter 14glass ceilingBen Takes Paige to a Birthday PartyChapter 15bowl of mushBen Comes Back FlushedChapter 16pull offBenjamin Opens Up About His MarriageChapter 17take the rapA Wife Reveals Her Husband's AffairWatching · Chapter 18add upBen Talks Jules Out of Giving Up
That's all 18 chapters of this film