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Waking Life · 2001 — 第 4 / 13 章 · 3'48" · C1

两人聊梦境与转世：collective memory

两个人从「像快死的老太太回顾一生」的感觉聊起，一路扯到死后脑活动、转世和集体记忆。一句 from the perspective of（从…的视角）把这种回望说清楚；又有人说转世只是 collective memory（集体记忆）的诗意说法。想在闲聊里把抽象话题讲得既有画面又不装，这几句很值得拆。

发生了什么

两个人先聊一种感觉：一人说对方常像在旁观自己的生活，像快死的老太太从终点回望一生；另一人承认自己有时还这样。一句 from the perspective of（从…的视角）把这种回望说清楚。话题又转到「临死前很期待身体已死、大脑还活着的那一刻」的传闻，再到死后六到十二分钟脑活动；中间一句 You know what I'm saying?（你懂我意思吧）是在确认对方有没有跟上。最后有人说转世只是 collective memory（集体记忆）的诗意说法，还提到填字游戏实验和「心灵感应」般的共享经验。想学怎么用英语接住抽象话题，可以从这些说法入手。

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from the perspective ofYou know what I'm saying?dumb fuckfirst-round humans

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本章短语

collective memory

集体记忆memory shared by a group

有人把转世重新定义：它只是 collective memory（集体记忆）的一种诗意说法，语气像在给整段推演慢慢落结论。

The song has entered the country's collective memory.这首歌已经进入这个国家的集体记忆。

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  • from the perspective of

    从…的视角

  • You know what I'm saying?

    你懂我意思吧

  • dumb fuck

    蠢货（粗俗骂人）

  • first-round humans

    第一轮人类（新手灵魂）

  • poppin' up

    突然冒出来

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短语 · B1keep thinking about something

一直惦记着某事

I keep thinking about something you said.
发音keep thinking

keep thinking 的 p 很轻，黏住。

I keep thinking about something you said.
短语 · B1be about to do something

即将死去

from the perspective of an old woman about to die.
短语 · B2look back on something

回望往事

Like I'm looking back on my life.
短语 · B1look forward to something

期待某事

that he was looking forward to the moment...
短语 · B2be shut down

彻底停止运转

They say that there's still 6 to 12 minutes of brain activity after everything is shut down.
短语 · B1last for + 时间段

持续好几个小时

go back to sleep and I have those long, intricate, beautiful dreams that seem to last for hours,
发音could be your

be your 连成一团，重音在 life。

Exactly. So then 6 to 1 2 minutes of brain activity, I mean, that could be your whole life.
短语 · B2exist in someone's mind

只存在于某人想象中

I mean, yeah, maybe I only exist in your mind.
发音as anything else

as anything 连读，else 轻轻收尾。

I'm still just as real as anything else.
短语 · B1over time

随着时间推移

Just about reincarnation and where all the new souls come from over time.
语法 · B2where all the new souls come from

宾语从句：where 从句作 about 的宾语，问‘新灵魂从哪来’，用陈述语序。

Just about reincarnation and where all the new souls come from over time.
俚语 · B2dumb fuck

蠢货（粗俗）——熟人私下骂人，正式场合禁用

I always want to tell them they were probably some dumb fuck like everybody else.
短语 · B2an eternal soul

永恒不灭的灵魂

- So if you really believe in that ego thing of one eternal soul, - Mm-hmm.
俚语 · B2ego thing

自我那套说法——口语带轻蔑，正式讨论别说

- So if you really believe in that ego thing of one eternal soul, - Mm-hmm.
语法 · B2What I'm trying to say is that

主语从句：what 从句作主语，is that 后接内容；等于‘我想说的是……’。

No, no. What I'm trying to say is that somehow I believe...
短语 · C1a poetic expression of something

对某事的诗意说法

reincarnation is just a-- a poetic expression of what collective memory really is.
语法 · B2that I read not long ago

定语从句：that I read... 修饰 article，去掉仍完整。

There was this article by this biochemist that I read not long ago, and he was talking about how when a member of a species is born,
短语 · C1draw on something

凭借、动用（记忆等） 字面像画在上面，这里指取用积累的记忆

it has a billion years of memory to draw on.
短语 · B2inherit something

继承本能

And this is where we inherit our instincts.
短语 · C1innovative leaps in something

创新性飞跃

That would explain why there's all these, you know, seemingly spontaneous, worldwide, innovative leaps in science, in the arts.
短语 · B2independent of each other

彼此独立、互不依赖

You know, like the same results poppin' up everywhere independent of each other.
俚语 · B2poppin' up

接连冒出来——口语说新事物出现，写作少用

You know, like the same results poppin' up everywhere independent of each other.
短语 · B1figure something out

弄明白、想出答案

- figure out the same thing. - Mm-hmm.
短语 · B2in relation to something

相对于、与…相比

in relation to the general population.
短语 · B2pick up on something

领会到、察觉到 字面像捡起来，这里指接收到别人放出的答案

So it's like once the answers are out there, you know, people can pick up on 'em.
发音pick up on 'em

'em 只剩轻 m；pick up on 连成串。

So it's like once the answers are out there, you know, people can pick up on 'em.

看懂「两人聊梦境与转世」

发音重点

  • keep thinking — keep thinking 的 p 很轻，黏住。
  • could be your — be your 连成一团，重音在 life。
  • as anything else — as anything 连读，else 轻轻收尾。
  • pick up on 'em — 'em 只剩轻 m；pick up on 连成串。
Like my waking life is her memories.

仿佛我醒着的生活就是她的记忆。 把清醒生活倒置成别人的记忆，一句话立住全片梦境感。

And a second of dream consciousness, right, well, that's infinitely longer than a waking second.

而一秒梦境意识，对吧，嗯，比清醒的一秒要长得多，长到无限。 用‘无限长’把梦的时间感说透，口语停顿也带节奏。

I'm still just as real as anything else.

我仍然和其他任何东西一样真实。 被说成‘只存在于你脑中’后，这句轻轻顶回去，温柔又坚定。

It's like we're all telepathically sharing our experiences.

就像我们都在用心灵感应分享各自的经历。 把‘共享经历’说成一幅人人都在取用的图景，抽象推演忽然有了体温。

关于这一章的问题

from the perspective of 是什么意思？

意思是「从…的视角」。台词里说 from the perspective of an old woman about to die，就是「像一个快要死的老太太那样看」。它后面常接人，也可以接立场、时代或某类人的眼光。

「你懂我意思吧」英语怎么说？

可以说 You know what I'm saying?。它常放在解释完一段话之后，用来确认对方有没有跟上；台词里问完，对方回 Oh, yeah, definitely。

「集体记忆」英语怎么说？

是 collective memory。台词里说 reincarnation is just a poetic expression of what collective memory really is，把转世说成对集体记忆的一种诗意表达。

what if I am 是什么意思？

意思是「就算我是呢」，语气像把对方的假设接过来，再反问回去。台词里紧接着问 Then what would you be in all that?。

poppin' up 是什么意思？

意思是「突然冒出来」。台词里说同样的成果 poppin' up everywhere independent of each other，指它们到处出现，而且彼此没有关联。

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