something subjective
Harry insists Sally's attractiveness is a fact and even uses the word empirically to prove it.
I don't think it's a matter of opinion. Empirically, you are attractive.When Harry Met Sally... · 1989 — 第 3 / 20 章 · 2'41" · B2
Men and Women Can't Be Friends, Explained：get in the way
The film's central thesis is born on a drive to New York. After an awkward compliment, Harry lays it out: "men and women can't be friends because the sex part always gets in the way." Sally calls it nonsense and counts her male friends. The argument they have here quietly sets up everything that follows.
あらすじ
Driving from Chicago to New York, Harry and Sally argue about attraction and friendship. Harry insists that men and women can never be just friends, while Sally rejects the idea and says she has plenty of male friends. They agree to disagree, and the drive ends with neither convinced.
注目の表現
a matter of opinioncome-onfor the sake of argumentlet it lie
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このシーンの表現
get in the way
be an obstacle
Harry delivers the core of his theory: sex always stands between men and women.
Jealousy kept getting in the way of their friendship.
このシーンの他の表現
- a matter of opinion
something subjective
- come-on
a flirtatious signal
- for the sake of argument
as a hypothesis
- let it lie
leave it alone
- without my knowledge
without me knowing
このシーンのメモ一覧
51 行のセリフに 26 件のメモ
side with someone
- So you're going with her. - So?flirt with someone
So you're coming on to me.a flirtatious signal
Sally reads his compliment as flirting, and Harry protests that a kind word is not a come-on.
Can't a man say a woman is attractive without it being a come-on?gerund phrase: Without plus a gerund means something happens in the absence of that thing.
Can't a man say a woman is attractive without it being a come-on?Without it links together and can sound like withoutit.
Can't a man say a woman is attractive without it being a come-on?as a hypothesis
Stuck in a deadlock, Harry concedes the point hypothetically to move the argument forward.
Let's just say, just for the sake of argument, that it was a come-on.object clause: The that-clause is the object of say, spelling out what is being granted.
Let's just say, just for the sake of argument, that it was a come-on.withdraw a remark
What do you want me to do about it? I take it back, okay?already said or public
Because it's already out there.call the police
Geez, what are we supposed to do? Call the cops. It's already out there.the police — Everyday slang for the police; casual, not formal.
Geez, what are we supposed to do? Call the cops. It's already out there.leave it alone
Sally tells Harry to drop the subject, and he agrees before immediately admitting he did not.
Just let it lie.The t in let it often becomes a soft flap in American speech.
Just let it lie.want to — Casual contraction; keep it out of writing.
Wanna spend the night in a motel? See what I did? I didn't let it lie.subject clause: The what-clause is the subject of the sentence, meaning the thing I mean is.
What I'm saying is... and this is not a come-on in any way...be an obstacle
Harry delivers the core of his theory: sex always stands between men and women.
men and women can't be friends because the sex part always gets in the way.Gets and in run together in fast speech.
men and women can't be friends because the sex part always gets in the way.without me knowing
Sally picks up Harry's implication and asks if she is sleeping with these friends without knowing it.
You're saying I'm having sex with these men without my knowledge?yes it does
- They do not. - Do too.yes it is — Childish back-talk; adults use it only to tease.
- They do not. - Do too.see someone as attractive
Because no man can be friends with a woman that he finds attractive.relative clause: The relative clause describes which woman: the one he finds attractive.
Because no man can be friends with a woman that he finds attractive.more or less
No. You pretty much want to nail them too.have sex with — Crude; avoid it in polite or mixed company.
No. You pretty much want to nail them too.it is not important
Doesn't matter, because the sex thing is already out there...「Men and Women Can't Be Friends」を読み解く
What's really going on
The scene works as a first date that never becomes one. Harry's line — "men and women can't be friends because the sex part always gets in the way" — sounds like an insult to Sally, but it is really a confession of how he sees his own sex, and she pushes back with her own experience: she has male friends, and they are just friends. The comic engine is that neither of them can let it go. Sally treats "a matter of opinion" as if attraction were a fact to be measured, while Harry claims "let it lie" is his policy and undermines it by asking about a motel. What the argument exposes is a pair who talk past each other with perfect fluency, which is why the film can spend the rest of its running time proving and disproving Harry's thesis.
Theme
FriendshipHarry and Sally argue over whether friendship between men and women is possible, the question the whole film turns on.
RomanceTheir bickering is a flirtation in disguise, setting up the attraction the argument denies.
このチャプターで学べること
- A compliment can be argued about like evidence.
- The debate hardens into a famous thesis.
- Her last line quietly changes the mood.
- Both of them win and lose the same point.
発音のポイント
- without it — Without it links together and can sound like withoutit.
- let it — The t in let it often becomes a soft flap in American speech.
- gets in — Gets and in run together in fast speech.
men and women can't be friends because the sex part always gets in the way.Harry's famous thesis: attraction always contaminates friendship, so the two can never be purely platonic.
Can't a man say a woman is attractive without it being a come-on?Harry's exasperated defence: he insists a compliment can be honest rather than an invitation.
You were the only person that I knew in New York.Sally's quiet admission at the end of the drive: for all their arguing, Harry is the one person she has in a new city.
You realize that we could never be friends.Harry's blunt conclusion, delivered as fact rather than opinion, which Sally immediately disputes.
このシーンについての質問
Why does Harry think men and women can't be friends?
He argues that attraction always enters the picture, so one side will want more. He treats it as a rule about men rather than a compliment to Sally.
How does Sally respond to Harry's theory?
She calls it untrue and points to her own male friends. Harry replies that those men all want to sleep with her, which she refuses to accept.
Is Harry coming on to Sally in this scene?
He says no, and insists a compliment is not automatically a come-on. Sally does not believe him, and the argument becomes their first real conversation.
What do they decide by the end of the drive?
Nothing is settled. They agree they cannot be friends for now, and Sally notes that Harry was the only person she knew in New York.
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次のチャプター · 第 4 章keep in touch withHarry and Sally Reunite on a Plane
第 1 章in her right mindHarry and Sally Drive to New York
第 2 章strong suitSally Explains the Weekday Underpants
再生中 · 第 3 章get in the wayMen and Women Can't Be Friends
第 4 章keep in touch withHarry and Sally Reunite on a Plane
第 5 章grow apartHarry Amends the Friendship Rule
第 6 章cushion the blowHarry Tells Jess About His Divorce
第 7 章on a moment's noticeHarry and Sally Reunite in a Bookstore
第 8 章as hard as nailsHarry and Sally Become Friends
第 9 章high maintenanceHarry Calls Sally Late at Night
第 10 章get out thereHarry and Sally Talk Like This
第 11 章downshift into small talkSally Fakes an Orgasm
第 12 章hit it offHarry and Sally Slip Out at Midnight
第 13 章get over yourselfThe Double Date at the Restaurant
第 14 章call off the dogsHarry and Sally Shop for a Gift
第 15 章sooner or laterHarry Runs Into His Ex-Wife
第 16 章take your anger outHarry and Sally Have a Fight
第 17 章a dead endSally Calls Harry About Joe
第 18 章one thing led to anotherHarry and Sally's Awkward Morning After
第 19 章get past thisHarry and Sally Fight at the Wedding
第 20 章consolation prizeHarry's Answering Machine Message第 3 / 20 章 · 残り約 56 分