do you have
Erm,... have you got the car keys?24 Hour Party People · 2002 — 第 2 / 10 章 · 4'50" · B2
Tony Wilson Names Joy Division, Explained：print the legend
The band needs a name, and Tony rejects "Warsaw" because you can't put it on a poster. Someone offers "Joy Division" — a Nazi term explained without embarrassment — and Tony's reaction is that it sounds "quite cheery." The scene then pitches Factory Records as the anarchist alternative to the majors.
あらすじ
Tony and his friends are deciding what to call their band. "Warsaw" is rejected on the spot — it looks like a travel advert. Someone suggests "Joy Division," cheerfully explaining the Nazi origin of the phrase, and Tony decides it sounds quite cheery. He then outlines Factory Records, a cooperative where the label and the artist split everything fifty-fifty.
注目の表現
print the legendcheeryfuck offstand up in court
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このシーンの表現
print the legend
tell the myth, not the facts
The narration borrows John Ford to say the film itself prefers myth over record.
He never checked the dates; he just printed the legend.
このシーンの他の表現
- cheery
ironically upbeat
- fuck off
get lost, go away
- stand up in court
hold up legally
- status quo
the existing order
- quid
pounds, informally
このシーンのメモ一覧
92 行のセリフに 26 件のメモ
Say have you got as one weak run, not three words.
Erm,... have you got the car keys?oral sex — Crude slang for oral sex; never in polite company.
I only got a blow job. That's full penetration.pick one of two
When you have to choose between truth and legend, print the legend.relative clause: The clause after things explains which things, with that left out.
..who wanted all the things young couples want.a few
Nice house, nice car and a couple of kids.the existing order
Tony brands the big labels the status quo and his own outfit the rebels.
The majors are the status quo and we're not, we're the anarchists.split the money
It's gonna be like a co-op, we're all gonna share in the proceeds.what remains
We pay for the costs and everything and the rest of it is 50/50.the person in charge of
Alan's gonna be head of business affairs.Lebanese hash — Drug slang for Lebanese hash; niche and risky to use.
It's Red Leb, that. Have you smelt it? Smell that.a completely free hand
I'm giving you total creative freedom. Right?Link giving and you without a pause.
I'm giving you total creative freedom. Right?conditional without if: The first clause works as a condition, with if dropped in speech.
You don't like us, you fuck off. I don't like you, I fuck off.get lost — A crude instruction to leave; only among close friends.
You don't like us, you fuck off. I don't like you, I fuck off.in one's own blood
I'll write you a contract saying there's no contract in me own blood.anything — Northern English dialect for anything; regional and casual.
In the wo... In the words of the great prophet, ''l dares do owt.'' - Oh, it ain't legal, this. - Come on.hold up legally
Someone jokes that a contract written in blood would never survive a courtroom.
I'm not sure that'd stand up in court!pounds per hour
Right, 50 quid an hour.pounds — Everyday British for pounds; not in formal writing.
Right, 50 quid an hour.a partner in
Plus I wanna be a partner in the company.in itself
Nothing was wrong with the drumming as such,...used as a crude intensifier — A crude British intensifier for complaints; keep it informal.
..and quite frankly, erm,... it's boring the arse off me.contracted question: A full question squeezed into speech via contractions.
How long's that gonna fucking take?however long is needed
I don't fucking know. As long as it takes.Run as-long-as-it together, then land on takes.
I don't fucking know. As long as it takes.「Tony Wilson Names Joy Division」を読み解く
What's really going on
The scene is really about how to sell a myth, and it starts with a name. Tony explains the film's whole method up front: "When you have to choose between truth and legend, print the legend." So when "Warsaw" won't work, the group doesn't search for a better description — they pick a phrase that sounds intriguing, "Joy Division," and explain its ugly Nazi meaning as if the ugliness made it cooler. Tony's verdict, that it is "quite cheery," is either naive or deliberate, and the film leaves both open. The same instinct runs Factory Records: he calls the majors "the status quo" and himself and his partners "the anarchists," then promises a fifty-fifty split with no contracts.
Theme
AmbitionA band gets a name and a label gets an ideology; everyone here is inventing an identity and selling it as a movement.
IdentityThe scene shows identity being manufactured — a name, a myth, a stance — as the raw material of a music scene.
このチャプターで学べること
- Print the legend means choose the myth over the facts.
- Quid is everyday British for pounds.
- Stand up in court means survive legal scrutiny.
- Status quo names the way things already are.
発音のポイント
- have you got — Say have you got as one weak run, not three words.
- giving you — Link giving and you without a pause.
- long as it takes — Run as-long-as-it together, then land on takes.
When you have to choose between truth and legend, print the legend.Tony's epigraph, borrowed from John Ford: in storytelling, the more vivid version wins. It frames the film as a legend rather than a record.
The majors are the status quo and we're not, we're the anarchists.Factory Records is defined by opposition: the big labels stand for the way things are, so the new label claims the role of the rebels.
You don't like us, you fuck off. I don't like you, I fuck off.Tony's idea of a contract: no contract. The relationship is honest and reversible, and either side can walk away without lawyers.
You can't have a band called Warsaw. You can't put that on a poster.The practical objection that kills the old name: a band name has to work as marketing. 'Warsaw' sounds like a holiday, not a group.
I'll write you a contract saying there's no contract in me own blood.The anarchist deal taken literally: a contract promising there is no contract, signed in blood. Silly on purpose, it signals total trust and total theatre.
このシーンについての質問
Why does Tony reject the name Warsaw?
Because it reads like a travel advert, not a band. A name has to fit on a poster and say something. It's a practical point wrapped in the film's larger idea of image-making.
Why is the name Joy Division controversial?
It comes from a Nazi term for brothels in concentration camps. The band chose it partly for its sound, and the scene has the members explain the meaning without much shame.
What is Factory Records' business model?
A cooperative: the label covers costs and splits the rest fifty-fifty with the artist, and Tony offers total creative freedom with no contract.
What does "quid" mean?
It's British slang for a pound. When Martin Hannett says he wants '50 quid an hour,' he's naming his studio fee in everyday spoken money.
Why does Tony write the contract in his own blood?
It's a gesture, not a legal deal. He wants to prove total trust and no bureaucracy; someone jokes it wouldn't stand up in court, but the theatre is the point.
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第 7 章put things in perspectiveMartin Hannett's Funeral
第 8 章back downTony Wilson Buys Back the Tape
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