shrek-2001 · 2001 — Chapter 3 of 7 · 2'05" · B2

Ogres Are Like Onions, Explained: end of story

Someone recaps the deal: fight a dragon, rescue a princess, get a swamp back, and hears that donkeys should not talk. That same voice then asks for the full ogre routine. Under it is a fight about being misread. "Ogres are like onions" is taken as stink, tears, cake, and parfait, and all are refused.

What happens

Two voices argue a Farquaad deal: fight a dragon, rescue a princess, get a swamp back. One side wants the full ogre routine. The other paints a slaughtered village, asks if that sounds good, and gets a no. Then "there's a lot more to ogres than people think," then onions. Stink, tears, cake, and parfait miss. Layers is the point, closed with "End of story."

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Phrase of the scene

end of story

stop; this version is final

After cake and parfait try to replace the onion, the speaker locks the comparison shut.

We are leaving at six, end of story.

Also in this scene

  • get this straight

    confirm the version before arguing

  • in the first place

    back to the original cause

  • the whole ogre trip

    the full set of old ogre tricks, packed as one

  • sound good to you

    asks if that sounds good to you

  • a lot more to

    more depth than the label allows

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Phrase · B1get something straight

confirm the version before arguing

Someone repeats the dragon-and-princess bargain as if checking a bill, already sure it is absurd.

Let me get this straight. You're gonna go fight a dragon...
Soundget this straight

Hit straight, and let the two words before it blur.

Let me get this straight. You're gonna go fight a dragon...
SoundYou're gonna

Keep gonna as one squeeze; don't restore going to.

Let me get this straight. You're gonna go fight a dragon...
Phrase · B1just so someone will do something

for that one purpose and no other

and rescue a princess just so Farquaad will give you back a swamp...
Phrase · A2give someone back something

return what was taken from someone

and rescue a princess just so Farquaad will give you back a swamp...
Phrase · B1in the first place

back to the original cause

The speaker pins the lost swamp on the person who packed it with outsiders first.

which you only don't have because he filled it full of freaks in the first place.
Phrase · B1fill something full of something

cram a place until nothing fits

which you only don't have because he filled it full of freaks in the first place.
Grammar · B1which you only don't have

relative clause: which points back to the swamp and leaves only one cause.

which you only don't have because he filled it full of freaks in the first place.
Slang · B2freaks

a sneer for odd people — It insults people; do not use it as a name.

which you only don't have because he filled it full of freaks in the first place.
Phrase · A2get it

understand what is going on

I don't get it. Why don't you just pull some of that ogre stuff on him?
Phrase · B2pull something on someone

use a familiar tactic on someone ogre stuff means the scary routine people expect

I don't get it. Why don't you just pull some of that ogre stuff on him?
Phrase · B2lay siege to something

surround a place and attack

Throttle him, lay siege to his fortress, grind his bones to make your bread, the whole ogre trip.
Phrase · B2grind someone's bones

crush bones, the old ogre threat

Throttle him, lay siege to his fortress, grind his bones to make your bread, the whole ogre trip.
Phrase · B2the whole something

the full set of old ogre tricks, packed as one

After the scare list, the speaker bags every item as one required ogre routine.

Throttle him, lay siege to his fortress, grind his bones to make your bread, the whole ogre trip.
Phrase · A2sound good to someone

asks if that sounds good to you

After the horror list, the question pretends to ask permission and hands the cruelty back.

Does that sound good to you?
Phrase · B1for your information

a huffy preface to a correction

For your information, there's a lot more to ogres than people think.
Phrase · B1a lot more to someone than people think

more depth than the label allows

Pushed into the monster script, someone answers that ogres are more complex than the cliché.

For your information, there's a lot more to ogres than people think.
Sounda lot more to

Let to lean on the next word instead of standing alone.

For your information, there's a lot more to ogres than people think.
Phrase · B1leave something out in the sun

leave something outside to change

You leave them out in the sun, they get all brown, start sprouting little white hairs.
Phrase · B1have layers

have hidden depth under the surface Onion layers are outer skins; ogre layers are the unseen inside. The line says both have them.

You get it? We both have layers. [Sighs]
Phrase · A2not everybody likes something

not everyone likes it; some people don't

You know, not everybody likes onions.
Grammar · B2I don't like no parfait

double negative: The two negatives still mean dislike; they do not cancel.

Have you ever met a person, you say, Let's get some parfait, they say, No, I don't like no parfait?
Phrase · B2beast of burden

an animal kept for carrying loads literally a pack animal, here an insult

You dense, irritating, miniature beast of burden!
Slang · B2dense

stupid, slow to catch on — Only with close friends; it lands as an insult.

You dense, irritating, miniature beast of burden!
Phrase · B1end of story

stop; this version is final

After cake and parfait try to replace the onion, the speaker locks the comparison shut.

Ogres are like onions! End of story.
SoundEnd of story

Pause on End, thin out of, and drop story.

Ogres are like onions! End of story.
Phrase · A2make a mess

make a mess and fail to contain it

Do you have a tissue or something? I'm making a mess.
Slang · B2slobbering

drooling from appetite — Fine with friends; too messy for formal talk.

Just the word parfait make me start slobbering.

Ogres Are Like Onions, explained

What's really going on

One voice recaps the Farquaad deal: fight a dragon, rescue a princess, get back a swamp that was filled with freaks. The reply snaps that donkeys should not talk. The recap voice keeps going and asks why not do the whole ogre trip: throttle him, siege the fortress, grind his bones. What comes back is the monster picture turned sour: decapitate a village, heads on a pike, cut the spleen and drink. "Does that sound good to you?" gets "Uh, no, not really, no." Only then does the point arrive. "There's a lot more to ogres than people think" pushes past that list, and "ogres are like onions" is heard as stink, tears, sunburn, and little white hairs. Each guess gets a no. Cake and parfait are offered because everybody loves them. "I don't care... what everyone likes" and "Ogres are not like cakes" refuse that vote. "End of story" stops the revisions.

Theme

IdentityA voice refuses the monster checklist and says ogres, like onions, have layers other people do not see.
AbsurdityLayers turns into stink, tears, sunburn, cake, and parfait, and the swamp deal never gets another serious line.

Listen for

  • get this straight — Hit straight, and let the two words before it blur.
  • You're gonna — Keep gonna as one squeeze; don't restore going to.
  • a lot more to — Let to lean on the next word instead of standing alone.
  • End of story — Pause on End, thin out of, and drop story.
For your information, there's a lot more to ogres than people think.

It rejects the throttle-and-grind picture. An ogre, this voice says, is more than the monster list people expect.

I don't care... what everyone likes.

The answer to the cake pitch. Popular taste is dismissed, so layers was never a bid to be liked.

Ogres are not like cakes.

A flat no to swapping onions for cake. Cake having layers is not enough, because the comparison was never about a crowd favorite.

You dense, irritating, miniature beast of burden!

The parfait joke will not stop, and this insult answers it. The listener is blamed for missing layers and staying on dessert.

Ogres are like onions! End of story.

The comparison is restated and closed. Layers stands, and cake or parfait will not get another round.

Parfaits may be the most delicious thing on the whole damn planet.

After bye-bye, the dessert pitch continues anyway. Parfait is praised as lovable, the test the onion side already refused.

Questions about this scene

Why do stink and tears show up right after ogres are compared to onions?

The next guesses take the comparison literally. Someone sniffs and asks if they stink. The reply starts to agree, then snaps "No!" Crying is guessed and also gets "No!" Sunburn and little white hairs come next, and that gets "No! Layers!" The point is then said outright: "Ogres have layers! Onions have layers."

Why reject cake if cakes have layers too?

The cake offer is "Everybody loves cakes! Cakes have layers." What comes back is "I don't care... what everyone likes" and "Ogres are not like cakes." Cake loses because it is what everyone loves, not because anyone denies that cake is layered.

Does anyone sign on to decapitating a village?

No. The picture is heads on a pike and drinking spleen fluid, followed by "Does that sound good to you?" The answer is "Uh, no, not really, no." The following line drops that picture and says there is a lot more to ogres than people think.

What does "the whole ogre trip" add up to in this argument?

The same line lists the pieces and then names the bundle: throttle him, lay siege to his fortress, and grind his bones to make your bread. "The whole ogre trip" is that monster routine, offered as one package.

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