Waking Life · 2001 — 第 9 / 13 章 · 3'39" · C1

Two People Debate What Film Captures, Explained:come out of the moment

On the surface it's a lecture: cinema copies reality, Hollywood tries to turn film into storytelling, the best movies aren't slaves to scripts. Underneath, the talk keeps drifting toward the sacred — "this moment, it's holy" — as if the argument were really about how to look at the person across the table.

あらすじ

Two people talk about film theory: cinema as a reproduction of reality, the "ontology of film," God incarnate, Hollywood's storytelling machine. Midway someone notices a mosquito and offers to swat it. The conversation loops back to the idea that this moment itself is holy — and one of them suggests they try having a holy moment right now.

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reproduction of realityontology of filmGod incarnatea slave to

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このシーンの表現

come out of the moment

emerge from the present moment

Someone uses songwriting as a comparison: a work must grow from the present moment, not from a preset story.

His best lines come out of the moment, not the page.

このシーンの他の表現

  • reproduction of reality

    copying or recording reality

  • ontology of film

    the study of what film essentially is

  • God incarnate

    God in concrete human form

  • a slave to

    controlled by something

  • be in the moment

    be fully present

このシーンのメモ一覧

61 行のセリフに 27 件のメモ

表現 · B2in its essence

at its core; essentially

Cinema, in its essence, is about reproduction of reality, which is that, like, reality is actually reproduced.
発音which is that

Practise linking which is that smoothly; keep is very light.

Cinema, in its essence, is about reproduction of reality, which is that, like, reality is actually reproduced.
表現 · B2a storytelling medium

a medium for telling stories

And for him, it might sound like a storytelling medium, really.
スラング · A2guy

man; guy — Casual for a man; avoid it in formal writing.

a joke-- "This guy walks into a bar and sees a dwarf."
表現 · B2an imaginative aspect to something

an element that requires imagination

And it's an imaginative aspect to it.
表現 · B2a dimension of time

the element of time

except that it adds this dimension of time to it...
発音that moment

Put the beat on moment; let that slip by.

at that moment in that space.
発音you know

Keep you know light and blurred so the main clause keeps moving.

And, you know, Bazin is, like, a Christian, so he, like, believes that, you know-- in God, obviously, and everything.
表現 · C1God incarnate

God in concrete human form

Someone brings Bazin’s faith into it and says film captures God incarnate, in a serious, theological tone.

And so what film is actually capturing is, like, God incarnate, creating.
文法 · B2what film is actually capturing

subject clause: The what-clause is the subject: what film captures is the thing named after is.

And so what film is actually capturing is, like, God incarnate, creating.
表現 · C1the ever-changing face of something

God’s shifting appearance

or of the ever-changing face of God.
表現 · B1the whole … thing

the whole Hollywood package

And the whole Hollywood thing has taken film...
表現 · B1find somebody who fits

look for a person who fits

and then you, like, you know-- you get the script and then try to find somebody who fits the thing.
表現 · B1be based on something

grounded in the script

It shouldn't be based on the script.
表現 · A2instead of something

rather than the story

- because then it's about that person instead of the story. - Right.
文法 · C1that you’re sort of a slave to

relative clause: The relative clause leaves to at the end: the thing you are a slave to.

because they have that kind of literary, narrative thing that you’re sort of a slave to.
表現 · C1be tied to something slavishly

bound to it too closely

The best films are the ones that aren't tied to that slavishly.
表現 · B2come out of the moment

emerge from the present moment

Someone uses songwriting as a comparison: a work must grow from the present moment, not from a preset story.

It has to come out of the moment.
表現 · B1walk around like + clause

go about as if

But we walk around like it's not holy.
表現 · C1frame it so that someone sees

frame it to make something visible

The film talker says a shot can frame the moment so we suddenly see “ah, this moment is holy”, almost like training our attention.

We can frame it so that we see, like, "Ah, this moment. Holy."
表現 · B2moment by moment

one moment after another

Like "holy, holy, holy" moment by moment.
文法 · C1if I were to look at you

subjunctive conditional: If I were to sets up a hypothetical act of looking, not a past event.

Because if I were to look at you and let you be holy--
表現 · B1be in the moment

be fully present

One side has just said that really looking at someone would leave them speechless; the other answers with a half-teasing be in the moment: then you would be fully present.

Well, you'd be in the moment. The moment is holy, right?
表現 · B2feel all this stuff

feel a rush of emotions

and I'd feel all this stuff and that's not polite.
スラング · B1stuff

emotions; feelings — Casual for feelings; use emotions in formal settings.

and I'd feel all this stuff and that's not polite.
表現 · B1make someone uncomfortable

cause you discomfort

It would make you uncomfortable.
表現 · B1have a … moment

share a sacred moment

Uh-huh. Well-- Well, let's do it right now. Let's have a holy moment.

「Two People Debate What Film Captures」を読み解く

What's really going on

It starts as aesthetics and slides into holiness, and the slide is the point. The claim that film should be "based on the person, the thing" rather than the script is also a claim about attention: look at what is actually there. Then the mosquito arrives, a small ordinary interruption the talk absorbs without breaking. By the end the abstraction has a face: "if I were to look at you and let you be holy--" and the answer is "I would, like, stop talking." One of them says they would cry instead: "I'd feel all this stuff and that's not polite." The scene keeps insisting the holy is not somewhere else: "this moment, it's holy."

Theme

FaithThe talk treats cinema as a record of "the ever-changing face of God" and calls plain reality, table included, holy.
PhilosophyFilm theory — ontology, God incarnate — turns into a question about how to live this one moment.

発音のポイント

  • which is that — Practise linking which is that smoothly; keep is very light.
  • that moment — Put the beat on moment; let that slip by.
  • you know — Keep you know light and blurred so the main clause keeps moving.
That's what film has. It's just that moment, which is holy.

Film's real subject isn't plot but a single present moment, and that moment is sacred.

But we walk around like it's not holy.

People live as if only some moments are sacred and all the ordinary ones are not.

But who can live that way? Who can go, "Wow, holy"?

Treating every moment as sacred is impossible to keep up in daily life, and the speaker says so.

The best films are the ones that aren't tied to that slavishly.

Great films don't serve a script obediently; they stay loose and follow the person and the moment.

このシーンについての質問

Why does the scene say film captures God?

The line goes that "reality and God are the same," so whatever the camera records — a table, a face — is "God manifest in that sense."

What does "God incarnate" mean here?

God in bodily form. The scene says film captures "God incarnate, creating," then widens it: God as this table, God is you and God is me.

Why shouldn't films be based on a script?

Because a literary, narrative script is something you become "a slave to." The claim is that film should be "based on the person, the thing," and that the best films "aren't tied to that slavishly."

What does one of them suggest at the end?

One of them has said they would look the other in the eyes, cry, and feel "all this stuff"; the reply is an offer to do it now — "let's do it right now. Let's have a holy moment."

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