kinds of monkeys
I mean, there's these breeds of monkeys, right? And all they do is have sex, like, all the time.Before Sunrise · 1995 — 第 14 / 21 章 · 2'50" · B2
Two People Debate Men, Women and Monkeys, Explained：fool around
On the surface it is a joke about monkeys that do nothing but have sex. Underneath, two people are testing a bigger claim: that men and women are wired to want different things. "Maybe foolin' around's not so bad," one of them suggests, and the talk turns into a debate about desire, biology and who destroys whom.
あらすじ
Two people fall into a winding conversation that starts with monkeys who do nothing but have sex and ends with the battle of the sexes. They swap theories about feminism, run a crude island thought experiment about birth rates, and share a street story about a girlfriend, four thugs and a Camaro. Nobody wins.
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fool aroundat workno big dealdickheads
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fool around
sleep around
Someone floats a paranoid joke that feminism may have been invented so men could fool around more.
She doesn't want a boyfriend; she just wants to fool around.
このシーンの他の表現
- at work
operating in the background
- no big deal
not a serious problem
- dickheads
idiots/jerks (vulgar)
- pushed to the front line
made to face the danger first
- on some level
to some degree
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48 行のセリフに 34 件のメモ
the only thing they do is
I mean, there's these breeds of monkeys, right? And all they do is have sex, like, all the time.existential there: Colloquial there's can introduce a plural noun without changing the 'there exist' meaning.
I mean, there's these breeds of monkeys, right? And all they do is have sex, like, all the time.end up being
And, uh, they turn out to be the least violent, the most peaceful, the most happy —sleep around
Someone floats a paranoid joke that feminism may have been invented so men could fool around more.
You know? So, I mean, maybe foolin' around's not so bad.The -in' ending is clipped, so let around flow straight after it.
You know? So, I mean, maybe foolin' around's not so bad.discussing monkeys
- Are you talking about monkeys? - Yes, I'm talking about monkeys.Keep about light and link it to talking; don't stress the first syllable.
- Are you talking about monkeys? - Yes, I'm talking about monkeys.makes me think of
I never heard this one, but it reminds me of this perfect, you know,excuse their sleeping around
male argument to justify them fooling around.a grim, suspicious idea
You know, I have this awful, paranoid thought that feminism was mostly invented by men so they could, like, fool around a little more.object clause: The that-clause spells out the thought, and the passive says men did the inventing.
You know, I have this awful, paranoid thought that feminism was mostly invented by men so they could, like, fool around a little more.liberate your thinking
You know, "Woman, free your mind. Free your body. Sleep with me.provided that
We're all happy and free as long as I can fuck as much as I can."Blur the two as sounds and give long a little more weight.
We're all happy and free as long as I can fuck as much as I can."operating in the background Not 'at the office'; a factor is operating.
But maybe, maybe there's some biological things at work here.the chance of
in a year you'd have the possibility of 99 babies.hypothetical would: Would have killed frames a hypothetical result in the island thought experiment.
- What? - On this island, you know, I think there will be only, like, maybe 43 men left because they would have killed each other trying to fuck this poor woman.Compress would have and land the stress on killed.
- What? - On this island, you know, I think there will be only, like, maybe 43 men left because they would have killed each other trying to fuck this poor woman.destroy someone fiercely Figurative: to attack or destroy someone ruthlessly.
99 women, 99 babies, and no more men because they would have all gotten together and eaten him alive.to some degree
After the joke about women eating a man alive, this line uses on some level to soften the provocative claim.
I think on some level, women don't mind the idea of destroying a man.thug-like — Mocking label for someone who looks like a street thug; not for formal writing.
We just walked by these real — four thuggy-looking guys next to a Camaro.crude comment on someone's butt — Crude street harassment, never a friendly compliment.
And, uh, one of 'em sure enough says, "Hey, baby, nice ass."not a serious problem
Telling a story about street guys catcalling his ex, he says no big deal to talk himself out of getting worked up.
So I'm like, "All right. No big deal. I'm not gonna get uptight about this."idiots/jerks (vulgar) — Vulgar insult for people you are angry at; avoid in polite company.
But she turns around, she says, "Fuck you, dickheads!"beat her up — Threatening, vulgar; even as a joke it depends on closeness.
They're not gonna come and kick her ass. Know what I mean?made to face the danger first
After the story about his ex insulting the thugs, he asks who was pushed forward to face the danger.
So who just got pushed to the front line on that one? You see what I'm saying?get my point
So who just got pushed to the front line on that one? You see what I'm saying?Stress front line and keep the earlier words light; let the question rise.
So who just got pushed to the front line on that one? You see what I'm saying?progressive being: 'You're being unmanly' judges a passing act, not a permanent trait.
but if it suits them, then they'll tell you you're being all unmanly or wimpy.weak/cowardly — Informal put-down for being weak; use weak in formal contexts.
but if it suits them, then they'll tell you you're being all unmanly or wimpy.a repeating loop
The argument swings back to man-woman conflict, and someone says with a tired sigh that it is like a skipping record.
- Like — You know. - It's like a skipping record, you know?present perfect continuous: It presents the conversation as ongoing and repeated up to now.
Every couple's been having this conversation forever.produce any idea
And nobody came up with anything.「Two People Debate Men, Women and Monkeys」を読み解く
What's really going on
The monkey talk works as a permission slip. By calling desire animal and therefore innocent, one of them can say "maybe foolin' around's not so bad" without fully owning the idea. The island thought experiment looks like biology but works like a scoreboard: 99 women and one man could produce 99 babies, while 99 men and one woman could produce one — and, in the telling, leave a pile of dead men. The street story pushes the same button from another side: a girlfriend turns on four men by a Camaro, and the speaker notices who would have absorbed the consequences: "So who just got pushed to the front line on that one?" The real subject is not which sex is worse but how fast a playful theory turns into a way to keep score. The loop gets named outright: "Every couple's been having this conversation forever."
Theme
PhilosophyA casual chat about monkeys slides into a debate about desire, biology and politics.
SatireThe island thought experiment mocks grand theories about men and women by pushing them to an absurd extreme.
発音のポイント
- foolin' around — The -in' ending is clipped, so let around flow straight after it.
- talking about — Keep about light and link it to talking; don't stress the first syllable.
- as long as — Blur the two as sounds and give long a little more weight.
- would have killed — Compress would have and land the stress on killed.
You know, I have this awful, paranoid thought that feminism was mostly invented by men so they could, like, fool around a little more.A deliberately cynical joke: the speaker suggests that a movement for women's freedom might have been useful cover for men who wanted more sex.
But if you have an island with 99 men and only one woman, in a year you have the possibility of only one baby.A thought experiment that reduces the question to arithmetic: with 99 men and one woman, the possible number of babies in a year drops to one.
99 women, 99 babies, and no more men because they would have all gotten together and eaten him alive.The punchline of the island experiment: the lone man is imagined as a threat the women would collectively remove, flipping the earlier image of male violence.
So who just got pushed to the front line on that one? You see what I'm saying?After the girlfriend insults four men, the speaker points out that he would be the one facing them, naming the cost of someone else's bravado.
Every couple's been having this conversation forever.The argument is declared ancient and unwinnable, a way of closing the topic without either side conceding anything.
このシーンについての質問
Why does the conversation start with monkeys?
One of them brings up monkey breeds that do little but have sex, then notes they are the least violent and most peaceful, which is used to suggest that fooling around might not be so bad.
What is the point of the island thought experiment?
It sets 99 women and one man, who could produce 99 babies in a year, against 99 men and one woman, who could produce only one; it then adds that the men would kill each other and the women would kill the man.
Why is the story about the four men and the Camaro brought up?
To argue that when a woman insults four men, the man beside her is the one pushed to the front line, so saying women dislike protectiveness has a cost.
Do they settle the argument?
No. One calls it depressing and asks to stop, and the reply is that every couple has had this conversation forever and nobody has come up with anything.
What does "a skipping record" mean here?
A record that jumps and repeats the same bit. It describes an argument that keeps circling back to the same point without making progress.
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