at its core; essentially
Cinema, in its essence, is about reproduction of reality, which is that, like, reality is actually reproduced.Waking Life · 2001 — Capítulo 9 de 13 · 3'39" · C1
Two People Debate What Film Captures, Explained: come out of the moment
On the surface it's a lecture: cinema copies reality, Hollywood tries to turn film into storytelling, the best movies aren't slaves to scripts. Underneath, the talk keeps drifting toward the sacred — "this moment, it's holy" — as if the argument were really about how to look at the person across the table.
Qué pasa
Two people talk about film theory: cinema as a reproduction of reality, the "ontology of film," God incarnate, Hollywood's storytelling machine. Midway someone notices a mosquito and offers to swat it. The conversation loops back to the idea that this moment itself is holy — and one of them suggests they try having a holy moment right now.
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Expresión de la escena
come out of the moment
emerge from the present moment
Someone uses songwriting as a comparison: a work must grow from the present moment, not from a preset story.
His best lines come out of the moment, not the page.
También en esta escena
- reproduction of reality
copying or recording reality
- ontology of film
the study of what film essentially is
- God incarnate
God in concrete human form
- a slave to
controlled by something
- be in the moment
be fully present
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Practise linking which is that smoothly; keep is very light.
Cinema, in its essence, is about reproduction of reality, which is that, like, reality is actually reproduced.a medium for telling stories
And for him, it might sound like a storytelling medium, really.man; guy — Casual for a man; avoid it in formal writing.
a joke-- "This guy walks into a bar and sees a dwarf."an element that requires imagination
And it's an imaginative aspect to it.the element of time
except that it adds this dimension of time to it...Put the beat on moment; let that slip by.
at that moment in that space.Keep you know light and blurred so the main clause keeps moving.
And, you know, Bazin is, like, a Christian, so he, like, believes that, you know-- in God, obviously, and everything.God in concrete human form
Someone brings Bazin’s faith into it and says film captures God incarnate, in a serious, theological tone.
And so what film is actually capturing is, like, God incarnate, creating.subject clause: The what-clause is the subject: what film captures is the thing named after is.
And so what film is actually capturing is, like, God incarnate, creating.God’s shifting appearance
or of the ever-changing face of God.the whole Hollywood package
And the whole Hollywood thing has taken film...look for a person who fits
and then you, like, you know-- you get the script and then try to find somebody who fits the thing.grounded in the script
It shouldn't be based on the script.rather than the story
- because then it's about that person instead of the story. - Right.relative clause: The relative clause leaves to at the end: the thing you are a slave to.
because they have that kind of literary, narrative thing that you’re sort of a slave to.bound to it too closely
The best films are the ones that aren't tied to that slavishly.emerge from the present moment
Someone uses songwriting as a comparison: a work must grow from the present moment, not from a preset story.
It has to come out of the moment.go about as if
But we walk around like it's not holy.frame it to make something visible
The film talker says a shot can frame the moment so we suddenly see “ah, this moment is holy”, almost like training our attention.
We can frame it so that we see, like, "Ah, this moment. Holy."one moment after another
Like "holy, holy, holy" moment by moment.subjunctive conditional: If I were to sets up a hypothetical act of looking, not a past event.
Because if I were to look at you and let you be holy--be fully present
One side has just said that really looking at someone would leave them speechless; the other answers with a half-teasing be in the moment: then you would be fully present.
Well, you'd be in the moment. The moment is holy, right?feel a rush of emotions
and I'd feel all this stuff and that's not polite.emotions; feelings — Casual for feelings; use emotions in formal settings.
and I'd feel all this stuff and that's not polite.cause you discomfort
It would make you uncomfortable.share a sacred moment
Uh-huh. Well-- Well, let's do it right now. Let's have a holy moment.Two People Debate What Film Captures, explicado
What's really going on
It starts as aesthetics and slides into holiness, and the slide is the point. The claim that film should be "based on the person, the thing" rather than the script is also a claim about attention: look at what is actually there. Then the mosquito arrives, a small ordinary interruption the talk absorbs without breaking. By the end the abstraction has a face: "if I were to look at you and let you be holy--" and the answer is "I would, like, stop talking." One of them says they would cry instead: "I'd feel all this stuff and that's not polite." The scene keeps insisting the holy is not somewhere else: "this moment, it's holy."
Theme
FaithThe talk treats cinema as a record of "the ever-changing face of God" and calls plain reality, table included, holy.
PhilosophyFilm theory — ontology, God incarnate — turns into a question about how to live this one moment.
Escucha con atención
- which is that — Practise linking which is that smoothly; keep is very light.
- that moment — Put the beat on moment; let that slip by.
- you know — Keep you know light and blurred so the main clause keeps moving.
That's what film has. It's just that moment, which is holy.Film's real subject isn't plot but a single present moment, and that moment is sacred.
But we walk around like it's not holy.People live as if only some moments are sacred and all the ordinary ones are not.
But who can live that way? Who can go, "Wow, holy"?Treating every moment as sacred is impossible to keep up in daily life, and the speaker says so.
The best films are the ones that aren't tied to that slavishly.Great films don't serve a script obediently; they stay loose and follow the person and the moment.
Preguntas sobre esta escena
Why does the scene say film captures God?
The line goes that "reality and God are the same," so whatever the camera records — a table, a face — is "God manifest in that sense."
What does "God incarnate" mean here?
God in bodily form. The scene says film captures "God incarnate, creating," then widens it: God as this table, God is you and God is me.
Why shouldn't films be based on a script?
Because a literary, narrative script is something you become "a slave to." The claim is that film should be "based on the person, the thing," and that the best films "aren't tied to that slavishly."
What does one of them suggest at the end?
One of them has said they would look the other in the eyes, cry, and feel "all this stuff"; the reply is an offer to do it now — "let's do it right now. Let's have a holy moment."
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