think hard about something
any religious beliefs, or did you give it much thought?The Man from Earth · 2007 — 第 10 / 10 章 · 4'26" · C1
John Won't Confirm He Was Jesus, Explained：If I said no
On the surface this is a grilling about faith, old gods, and whether one man was Jesus. Underneath, nobody can force a yes. "If I said no, could you ever be sure?" leaves the listeners with a choice instead of an answer, after the miracles, the name, and the sermon have all been taken apart.
あらすじ
A group asks about religious belief and faith in the future of the race. One reply is that species come and go. Christianity is set beside Isis, Ishtar, and India's sacred cows. Miracles are denied: no son of God, no walking on water, no raising the dead. A hilltop lesson is admitted, and no one knows the one original. Asked "Were you?", the reply withholds both yes and no.
注目の表現
faith insells fear and guiltput into my mouthpull that out of a hat
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このシーンの表現
If I said no
even if I said no, could you be sure
I'm giving you one comes first, then Were you? Speakers are not marked. The reply gives no yes or no, only If I said no, and sends the certainty back.
If I said no to the merger, would the board ever feel sure?
このシーンの他の表現
- faith in
confidence placed in one specific thing
- sells fear and guilt
sells fear and guilt as the goods
- put into my mouth
words others assigned to him
- pull that out of a hat
produce a claim as if by magic
- in the sense of
only in this narrower meaning
このシーンのメモ一覧
70 行のセリフに 31 件のメモ
reach that state by a chosen method there is not a place; it is the faith that thought cannot reach
You can't get there with thought.whether that group still has a tomorrow race means humankind, not a footrace
Do you have faith in the future of the race?appear for a while, then vanish
I've seen species come and go.Keep and short so come and go moves as one piece.
I've seen species come and go.ruin something badly it is humanity's relation to nature, not a dirty room
We've made a mess of it.a traditional healer, not a physician — Fine in casual talk about traditional healers; not in a hospital.
I guess... a medicine man?treat hope and survival as goods
selling hope and survival?sells fear and guilt as the goods
Someone calls religion a sale of hope and survival; the reply keeps the sale and swaps in fear and guilt.
The Old Testament sells fear and guilt.a set of rules for right and wrong
The New Testament is a good code of ethics,words others assigned to him
After calling the New Testament a good ethic, he says poets and philosophers put those words into his mouth.
put into my mouth by poets and philosophers that are much smarter than I am.relative clause: that describes the poets and philosophers: they were smarter than he was.
put into my mouth by poets and philosophers that are much smarter than I am.produce a claim as if by magic
Asked where the name came from, someone treats it as pulled out of a hat, with no source behind it.
Did you pull that out of a hat?Run out of a together instead of giving of and a separate beats.
Did you pull that out of a hat?time clause: As the tales spread, the name was getting mixed up at the same time.
As tales of the resurrection spread, the name was confused with the Hebrew "Yochanan," Meaning "God is gracious."God's son
Then you didn't claim to be the son of God?Move from didn't straight into claim without a separate t.
Then you didn't claim to be the son of God?the title king of the Jews
I never claimed to be king of the Jews, I never walked on water, I never raised the dead.deny a title was ever yours
I never claimed to be king of the Jews, I never walked on water, I never raised the dead.bring dead people back to life
I never claimed to be king of the Jews, I never walked on water, I never raised the dead.only in this narrower meaning
After the miracles are denied, divine is kept only in the sense of human goodness.
I never spoke of divine except in the sense of human goodness on Earth.exception phrase: except removes every meaning of divine except human goodness.
I never spoke of divine except in the sense of human goodness on Earth.stuck because the story will not release them
One line says it is time to go home and kiss a wife. The next is We're all here, trapped by your story. Speakers are unmarked. They are still there because of the story, not a lock.
We're all here, trapped by your story...things revealed to us both a religious revelation and more of the story
more revelations for us?the same as it used to feel — Nostalgic small talk; leave it out of a formal report.
It's just like old times.the biblical Sermon on the Mount
After another denial, someone demands the sermon on the mount as a test, as if one English text existed.
Quote the sermon on the mount.Press even and me, and keep not light.
No one knows the one, not even me.let the listeners decide
He gave them a choice.whether you could ever be sure
If I said no, could you ever be sure?conditional clause: If imagines a no without giving one; the point is whether you could be sure.
If I said no, could you ever be sure?Join could you, then lift ever into the question.
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What's really going on
What sounds like a theology quiz is really a fight over whether a story can stand once the miracles are refused. Two thousand years of Christianity are set beside Isis, Ishtar, and cows that "in a thousand years" will be "barbecued" with souls "in squirrels." Someone calls the New Testament a code of ethics "put into my mouth by poets and philosophers." Asked if the name Jesus was pulled out of a hat, the answer starts at John and walks through Yochanan and Yahshua into Greek and Latin. The denials come as a list: not king of the Jews, never walked on water, never raised the dead. Divine stays only "in the sense of human goodness on Earth." The demand, "Quote the sermon on the mount," dies on "No one knows the one, not even me." The close, "If I said no, could you ever be sure?", will not trade a legend for a clean yes or no.
Theme
FaithBelief is set beside Isis, Ishtar, and a sermon nobody can quote, and even a no would not settle it.
IdentitySomeone answers to the name John, drops king of the Jews and the miracles, and still will not let the room decide.
発音のポイント
- come and go — Keep and short so come and go moves as one piece.
- out of a — Run out of a together instead of giving of and a separate beats.
- didn't claim — Move from didn't straight into claim without a separate t.
- not even me — Press even and me, and keep not light.
I revealed some truths to eat a little better.A stretch as a shaman, trading a few truths for better food rather than for worship.
In a thousand years, they'll be barbecued and their souls will be in squirrels.India's sacred cows, called reincarnated souls, are pictured as future barbecue, the souls moved into squirrels. A faith that looks eternal is given an expiry.
I never spoke of divine except in the sense of human goodness on Earth.Divine is narrowed to human goodness on Earth. Miracles and godhood are left outside that sense.
I never claimed to be king of the Jews, I never walked on water, I never raised the dead.Three claims people attach to Jesus are rejected in one breath: the royal title, walking on water, and raising the dead.
No one knows the one, not even me.Asked to quote the sermon on the mount, and which version, someone says the original is unknown even to them, so no edition can be produced as the one.
If I said no, could you ever be sure?It answers "Were you?" without a yes or a no. A denial, the line argues, would still leave the asker unsure.
このシーンについての質問
Why does nobody get a straight yes or no about being Jesus?
The scene ends on "If I said no, could you ever be sure?" Right before that, someone quotes biblical Jesus, "Who do you think I am?", says he gave them a choice, and adds "I'm giving you one." A direct answer is replaced by that choice. After "Were you?" there is no yes or no; it closes on "If I said no, could you ever be sure?"
Does anyone here claim to be the son of God?
No. After "Then you didn't claim to be the son of God?", the reply is "I said I had a master that was greater than myself" and "I never said he was my father." The same account says "I never claimed to be king of the Jews, I never walked on water, I never raised the dead."
Why bring up Isis, Ishtar, and sacred cows?
Someone says Christianity has been a worldwide belief for 2,000 years. The next lines ask how long the Egyptians worshipped Isis or the Sumerians Ishtar, then picture India's sacred cows barbecued in a thousand years, their souls in squirrels. Faiths that once looked permanent are the comparison.
Why ask for the sermon on the mount?
It follows a flat "You weren't Jesus." The demand is "Quote the sermon on the mount." The reply asks which text, "Darby, King James, new American standard?", then says "No one knows the one, not even me," and recalls teaching on a hill that not many people stayed to hear.
Why say the three wise men began with the Buddha?
The line is "The three wise men began as a myth about the birth of the Buddha." It follows the denial "No wise men came from the east to worship at a manger," plus a small admission of healing with eastern medicine. The manger story is pointed at another birth myth.
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